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February 1st, 2007, 05:22 AM   #21
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Feb 1 2007, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>nothing against wsb, but's its motogp for me everytime,racing prototypes should be the pinicle because its that technology thats past down to wsb and street bikes not the other way.
as well as the riders all wanting to go & prove they'er #1. & u have to be in gp's for that.
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MotoGP, that's why we're all here, right?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skidmark @ Feb 1 2007, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>MotoGP, that's why we're all here, right?

I wonder what people on a superbike forum would say to this question.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 1 2007, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I wonder what people on a superbike forum would say to this question.

Probably something insightful like "Foggy was better than Doohan."

To me, superbikes is like touring cars, MotoGP (i still think that is a crap name!) is like F1. Nothing to do with the real world and all the better for it!

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Feb 1 2007, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Probably something insightful like "Foggy was better than Doohan."

To me, superbikes is like touring cars, MotoGP (i still think that is a crap name!) is like F1. Nothing to do with the real world and all the better for it!

Pete

Sorry if that last post sounds a bit smug and dismissive, but surely even the most hardcore diesel fan knows they aint the top step?

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February 1st, 2007, 01:13 PM   #25
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Feb 1 2007, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Probably something insightful like "Foggy was better than Doohan."

To me, superbikes is like touring cars, MotoGP (i still think that is a crap name!) is like F1. Nothing to do with the real world and all the better for it!

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Sorry if that last post sounds a bit smug and dismissive, but surely even the most hardcore diesel fan knows they aint the top step?

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Yes i agree. No matter how much of a superbike fan someone is i'd be surprised if they actually thought it was above Gp racing. Not many people are foolish enough to claim touring car drivers are better than the mighty F1 pilots.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Feb 1 2007, 01:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Says it all Tom, Bayliss was on a high and had no pressure. A season is a long time. Edwards destroyed him the last time they were both in supers to take the title, and he's not exactly dominated GP.

And if I remember rightly, we have been assured on here that Nicky could have picked up the pace at any time, and lap the entire field if he had needed to. Jumkie said it so it must be true.....

I think, as we have agreed before, it comes down to, the fast guys will always be fast, but, the guys who hit the top of GP will always be a bit special. It has changed a bit now GP is on diesels, it took someone from another level to ride a 500 2 stroke to the limit every week.

I keep going back to lil John, but he demonstrated what a gifted, (if inconsistant) GP rider could do on a superbike.

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Sorry Pete, but it a mistake to say it took someone from another level to ride a 500cc 2 stroke to the limit every week !

What about Garry McCoy ?
What about Abe ?
What about McWilliams ?
What about Alex Barros ?

All 500cc greats, well apart from McWilliams, but nowhere on superbike.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dion @ Feb 1 2007, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sorry Pete, but it a mistake to say it took someone from another level to ride a 500cc 2 stroke to the limit every week !

What about Garry McCoy ?
What about Abe ?
What about McWilliams ?
What about Alex Barros ?

All 500cc greats, well apart from McWilliams, but nowhere on superbike.



McCoy struggled to win once everybody had copied his 16.5 tire choice and ridden it faster than him, so i don't consider him a great.

Abe underperformed for his entire career. His first ride was incredible. But works Honda and huge home advantage.......Then he falls off from trying too hard.

Barros had a single year on an average bike in superbikes. I mentioned this earlier, but if he'd been riding works ducati in 2007 you would have to re-think the term "nowhere"

Do you want a list of Excellent superbike riders who are nowhere in gp's.

Bayliss, Edwards, Hodgeson, Xuas, Mkenzie, Kocinski, Corser, Chili, roche, Mladin, Russel, Haga.....the list could continue
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 1 2007, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>McCoy struggled to win once everybody had copied his 16.5 tire choice and ridden it faster than him, so i don't consider him a great.

Abe underperformed for his entire career. His first ride was incredible. But works Honda and huge home advantage.......Then he falls off from trying too hard.

Barros had a single year on an average bike in superbikes. I mentioned this earlier, but if he'd been riding works ducati in 2007 you would have to re-think the term "nowhere"

Do you want a list of Excellent superbike riders who are nowhere in gp's.

Bayliss, Edwards, Hodgeson, Xuas, Mkenzie, Kocinski, Corser, Chili, roche, Mladin, Russel, Haga.....the list could continue

Bigger list Please !
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Well i have listed most of the main ones i can think of already, but if a list 3 times the size of yours isn't convincing enough i'll have to have a bit of a think about it. To be continued............
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dion @ Feb 1 2007, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Bigger list Please !
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