MotoGP Forum  

Go Back   MotoGP Forum > MotoGP Forum > MotoGP

MotoGP MotoGP Forum - MotoGP Class Motorcycle Racing Forum


Like Tree31Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
December 22nd, 2021, 10:29 AM   #11
Senior Member
 
Keshav's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2007
From: Pomona NY

Posts: 10,691
Likes: 2073

I Ride: BMW F800R + Yamaha XSR 900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bern1 View Post
Which dates will you be in San Francisco?
We get in on the 14th and will be in town the 15th and 16th leaving for Big Sur Monday morning.
Keshav is offline  
 
December 23rd, 2021, 04:45 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2015
From: On the edge in California

Posts: 643
Likes: 326

I Ride: 1972 BMW R75/5
Ok, its going to work. Im playing a gig on the 14th and leaving for SoCal on the 17th so meeting up with you guys on Saturday Jan 15th in the city would be perfect.
Bern1 is online now  
December 23rd, 2021, 05:47 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Keshav's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2007
From: Pomona NY

Posts: 10,691
Likes: 2073

I Ride: BMW F800R + Yamaha XSR 900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bern1 View Post
Ok, its going to work. Im playing a gig on the 14th and leaving for SoCal on the 17th so meeting up with you guys on Saturday Jan 15th in the city would be perfect.
Ill pm you my phone #
Keshav is offline  
December 26th, 2021, 11:05 AM   #14
Senior Member
 
Mick D's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2008
From: Thailand

Posts: 5,452
Likes: 595

PS meet-up... old members posting... its a Renaissance!
Bern1 likes this.
Mick D is online now  
March 9th, 2022, 10:09 PM   #15
Member
 
Cutter's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2020
From: Austin, TX

Posts: 61
Likes: 14

I Ride: Multistrada 1260s
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keshav View Post
Id been under the impression that there being no MotoGP races there was due to community pressure to limit the number of races there, over concerns of noise pollution. That, and the aggressive way Indy and COTA courted Dorna for the opportunity to host the races. Both facilities have much greater seating capacity and are spitting distance from major cities with full-on airports close by. Laguna is such an iconic track. Very old school American style place, sort of like a super glorified club racing track. If they do go back, I will be there. Tho, itd be kind of weird being there knowing thered be no sightings of Nicky.
I too have heard MotoGP wont return to Laguna Seca due to noise. Very Californian of them! It is a race track after all
greg328 likes this.
Cutter is offline  
March 10th, 2022, 04:54 AM   #16
Senior Member
 
Keshav's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2007
From: Pomona NY

Posts: 10,691
Likes: 2073

I Ride: BMW F800R + Yamaha XSR 900
When we were riding down from SF to Los Angeles last month, we were passing by the track and they have a schedule of races happening there this year, so it must be more than just the issue of noise. Monterey is a very wealthy, snooty community and while the merchants there must love the trade, I’m guessing there’s a lot of bourgeois twats whose hair gets curled at the thought of having the community invaded by hundreds of thousands of partied up motorcycle guys for 3 days.

I’ve read somewhere that a big issue is that Dorna wants too big a fee/bribe for having them host the race. It really is a shame that there are no longer two events in the US. I think with Covid restrictions phasing out they would get a good crowd.

2022 Season Schedule
April 22-24 – Trans Am Speedfest
April 29 - May 1 – Hyundai Monterey Sports Car Championship, presented by Motul
July 8-10 –GEICO Motorcycle MotoAmerica Superbike Speedfest at Monterey (TBC)
July 15-17 –AHRMA Classic MotoFest of Monterey
August 13-14 –Monterey Pre-Reunion
August 17-20 – Rolex Monterey Motorsports Reunion
September 9-11 – Firestone Grand Prix of Monterey
October 14-16 – Velocity Invitational (TBC)

Last edited by Keshav; March 10th, 2022 at 05:00 AM.
Keshav is offline  
March 29th, 2022, 11:17 AM   #17
Senior Member
 
Hollywood's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2013
From: USA

Posts: 704
Likes: 243

I think its more about money then anything... the costs to put on just one big race just once a year is not worth it for the facility. COTA makes motogp work because its hosts every major racing series in North America, in addition to all types of other events.
Hollywood is offline  
March 29th, 2022, 11:47 AM   #18
#22
Senior Member
 
#22's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2008
From: In Cider

Posts: 4,256
Likes: 1994

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keshav View Post

Ive read somewhere that a big issue is that Dorna wants too big a fee/bribe for having them host the race. It really is a shame that there are no longer two events in the US. I think with Covid restrictions phasing out they would get a good crowd.
I've always found it ridiculous the business model that F1 and MotoGP etc get away with.

Say you own a bottling company (Racetrack). And Coca Cola approach you about making bottles for their drink.

"Great! They make so much Cola that it will be a lucrative deal for me"

"No no, you don't understand. We want to use your bottling facility, but YOU have to pay US for the honor of bottling our product"

"Well how am I supposed to make money?"

"You can give tours of the facility and charge people for it"

"I could also get people to pay for advertising right?"

"No, all advertising space in your facility will be owned by and sold by us, you wont get a penny"

How many circuits have been built in the world that cost hundreds of millions then only used by F1 a few times? Buddh circuit in India, Istanbul Park. Valencia street circuit, Korea International circuit to name a few. Until COVID the track in Instabul was being used as a giant car park for rental cars!

What pisses me off is many of these circuits cough up to pay, then the club racer gets whacked with the exorbitant entry fees to cover it.
michaelm, Keshav, greg328 and 2 others like this.
#22 is offline  
March 29th, 2022, 06:36 PM   #19
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2015
From: On the edge in California

Posts: 643
Likes: 326

I Ride: 1972 BMW R75/5
Living in California and having watched racing at Laguna for virtually my entire life, there are several issues in play, apart from what has been mentioned above.

While I think that some issues could be solved, it’s possible that they won’t, due to the Dorna issues mentioned.

The community is used to racing and the $$ it brings. The track is in a bowl away from the city so the noise issue is reduced. There is plenty of racing there and there has been for years. Rainey’s organization is doing ok there.

There is room to expand the track and make it safer. It could be done. With good design, there is no reason the track would have to suffer. The expense of doing so would be the issue. Who is going to pony up for that?

The other major issue I see is twofold. One, a major airport is quite far away.
Two, there is really not much lodging in the Monterey area to accommodate many more visitors.

Carmel and Pebble Beach are snooty. Monterey is actually pretty down to earth for a tourist town. Neighboring Salinas and surrounding areas are all agriculture.

Conclusion: much as I would like to see improvements at every level for that track, I don’t see much of a chance for it happening unless Penske or Haas or some other really wealthy racing enthusiast organization gets involved.
Keshav, greg328 and Mrpurple like this.
Bern1 is online now  
March 29th, 2022, 07:02 PM   #20
Senior Member
 
Keshav's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2007
From: Pomona NY

Posts: 10,691
Likes: 2073

I Ride: BMW F800R + Yamaha XSR 900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bern1 View Post
Living in California and having watched racing at Laguna for virtually my entire life, there are several issues in play, apart from what has been mentioned above.

While I think that some issues could be solved, its possible that they wont, due to the Dorna issues mentioned.

The community is used to racing and the $$ it brings. The track is in a bowl away from the city so the noise issue is reduced. There is plenty of racing there and there has been for years. Raineys organization is doing ok there.

There is room to expand the track and make it safer. It could be done. With good design, there is no reason the track would have to suffer. The expense of doing so would be the issue. Who is going to pony up for that?

The other major issue I see is twofold. One, a major airport is quite far away.
Two, there is really not much lodging in the Monterey area to accommodate many more visitors.

Carmel and Pebble Beach are snooty. Monterey is actually pretty down to earth for a tourist town. Neighboring Salinas and surrounding areas are all agriculture.

Conclusion: much as I would like to see improvements at every level for that track, I dont see much of a chance for it happening unless Penske or Haas or some other really wealthy racing enthusiast organization gets involved.
I stand corrected. I always get Monterey and Camel mixed up. I've been to both. I kind of like Salinas. Just miles and miles of farmland; real middle America and laid back.
Keshav is offline  
Reply

  MotoGP Forum > MotoGP Forum > MotoGP

Tags
laguna, motogp, return, seca



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
WHO'S GOING/RIDING TO MOTOGP LAGUNA SECA??!! KARATEKID23 MotoGP 16 December 13th, 2009 07:12 PM
Why is Laguna Seca only MotoGP class? Bootsakah MotoGP 20 September 21st, 2007 07:11 PM
Why just MotoGP in Laguna Seca? mse MotoGP 36 July 21st, 2007 02:39 PM
MotoGP Laguna Seca 2007 - who will be there? Sina MotoGP 11 November 27th, 2006 02:08 PM
MotoGP returns to Laguna Seca Moto GP News Bot MotoGP 0 July 8th, 2005 09:36 AM


Facebook Twitter Google+ RSS Feed



Copyright © 2005-2022 Powerslide. All rights reserved.
MotoGP Forum is a MotoGP enthusiast's forum, but it is in no way affiliated with, nor does it represent MotoGP or Dorna Sports, S.L. of Madrid, Spain.