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September 8th, 2021, 04:39 AM   #31
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I actually think he is genuine about Stoner for two prime reasons.

1. The Ducati years humbled him given what he produced
2. His alternates are to praise Lorenzo and/or Marquez, both of whom I feel he dislikes with a greater passion than he does Stoner.


On the Lorenzo side, absolutely agree .............. he did not want a fast team mate but whether that was more at Lorenzo or Yamaha is a question
I think he knows he can use the rhetoric that his fans use to this day regarding Stoner, that he only beat Rossi to the 2007 title because the Ducati was by far a better bike (we all know it wasn't).

With Lorenzo, he doesn't have that excuse and Marquez. Well, he knows Marquez is a threat to his legacy.
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I think he knows he can use the rhetoric that his fans use to this day regarding Stoner, that he only beat Rossi to the 2007 title because the Ducati was by far a better bike (we all know it wasn't).

With Lorenzo, he doesn't have that excuse and Marquez. Well, he knows Marquez is a threat to his legacy.
I am attempting to retreat from all this, but my view back then and now was that the Ducati was on many tracks ultimately the faster bike if you could ride it, Rossi was rather good back then and imo extracted pretty much the maximum from the 2007 Yamaha. Being able to ride the 2007 Ducati was rather the trick though, maybe MM could have ridden it as Stoner did but few if any others then or since, including Rossi, would have managed to do so, again imo.
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September 8th, 2021, 06:21 AM   #33
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I am attempting to retreat from all this, but my view back then and now was that the Ducati was on many tracks ultimately the faster bike if you could ride it.
Yup, and there's the point. Capo was hardly a slouch, he was a championship contender in 2006 yet compared to Stoner he was nowhere. Likewise Melandri, nowhere on the 08 Ducati.
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Not watching this cunt speak lol. He can just fuck off already.

Same. I was tempted to watch but after reading the comments, not gonna watch it. Fk him. I was one of his biggest fan back then. Never meet your “hero”, or so they said. Glad I never met the guy lol.
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He still seems to think the Yamaha “owed him” an easy to beat team mate. Still a douche, will always be one.
Ric Flair once said, To be the best, you gotta beat the best. Rossi is obviously no Ric Flair!!
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Ric Flair once said, To be the best, you gotta beat the best. Rossi is obviously no Ric Flair!!
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I am attempting to retreat from all this, but my view back then and now was that the Ducati was on many tracks ultimately the faster bike if you could ride it, Rossi was rather good back then and imo extracted pretty much the maximum from the 2007 Yamaha. Being able to ride the 2007 Ducati was rather the trick though, maybe MM could have ridden it as Stoner did but few if any others then or since, including Rossi, would have managed to do so, again imo.
I think the notion that MM can ride anything, has some cracks in it, given his performance on this years bike.

What Casey did on that 07 pile of shite, is the greatest thing we have ever seen on a motorbike, in modern times.
It may not I have seen quite as sexy back in 07, but in hindsight, after watching rider after rider fail in subsequent years, it was a moonshot of achievement
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I think the notion that MM can ride anything, has some cracks in it, given his performance on this years bike.

What Casey did on that 07 pile of shite, is the greatest thing we have ever seen on a motorbike, in modern times.
It may not I have seen quite as sexy back in 07, but in hindsight, after watching rider after rider fail in subsequent years, it was a moonshot of achievement
Marc may not be able to ride anything, can't judge that from this year though. Casey however, he's a rider who didn't play to the ring leaders. Can't prove, but likely the actual GOAT.
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I think the notion that MM can ride anything, has some cracks in it, given his performance on this years bike.

What Casey did on that 07 pile of shite, is the greatest thing we have ever seen on a motorbike, in modern times.
It may not I have seen quite as sexy back in 07, but in hindsight, after watching rider after rider fail in subsequent years, it was a moonshot of achievement
I have a level of agreement here. I did find it sexy though
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Marc may not be able to ride anything, can't judge that from this year though. Casey however, he's a rider who didn't play to the ring leaders. Can't prove, but likely the actual GOAT.
It is fair to say that by virtue of Stoner repeatedly beating both Lorenzo and Rossi in their prime on that POS Ducati, that he's high up there in the pantheon of GOATs. Until the advent of Fabio it has not seemed Marquez has had anyone who could consistently match him in ability and spirit.
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