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January 23rd, 2021, 01:32 AM | #11 |
Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Fremantle, Australia Posts: 1,900 Likes: 814 |
Age has been a recent factor. More than 4 competitive bikes since 2016 which means a better depth of competition, it has negatively impacted all the 'aliens' bar Marquez. If the conditions were the same in 2015 as they are now I doubt Rossi's strategy of finishing races and picking up the pieces when Lorenzo or Marquez fell off works well enough for him to be leading the title race in the last round. Consistency is still key but now a win generally means more than 5-9 points between you and your closest title rival. Rossi lost dominance pretty much the moment control tyres were introduced, that factor can't be ruled out either. |
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January 23rd, 2021, 04:56 AM | #12 | |
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January 23rd, 2021, 09:14 AM | #13 |
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That piece of irony does bring into question the proposed cause effect, i.e., controlled tyres arrive and Rossi loses his dominance. Could easily be the new era of riders. Rossi is almost 3 generations removed.... that's the longevity he carries.
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January 23rd, 2021, 11:50 PM | #14 | |
Senior Member Joined: May 2007 From: sydney australia Posts: 11,107 Likes: 2375 | Quote:
He actually acceded to the discontinuation of the SNS tires as I recall, but I believe he was significantly responsible for control tires, insisting on having Bridgestones after 1 year of possible superiority over the Michelins on which he he had so prospered, including rumoured threats of quitting the sport. Ducati actually wanted to switch to Michelin rather than have a control tire not suited to their idiosyncratic bike. I don’t think there is much doubt he considered that the Ducati bike and the Bridgestone tires beat him rather than Casey Stoner. As I said at the time no-one on a Yamaha and Michelins could have beaten the 2007 Ducati ridden by Casey Stoner, but riding the thing like Casey Stoner was the difficulty, one Rossi didn’t recognise hence his disastrous Ducati adventure and pretty much the blighting of his latter career. | |
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January 24th, 2021, 01:49 AM | #15 | |
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You have to wonder if control tyres had always been a thing how different the sports greatest riders would be. | |
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January 24th, 2021, 05:26 AM | #16 |
Senior Member Joined: Feb 2015 From: England Posts: 1,418 Likes: 685 |
I have to say I've never been a fan of control tyres or control ECU's, I've often thought it's at a detriment to the sport. Grand Prix motorcycle racing isn't just a competition for the riders but for the manufacturers and tyre companies. Having tyre brands that suited a particular track better than others made the racing more interesting in my opinion.
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January 24th, 2021, 07:39 AM | #17 | |
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January 30th, 2021, 05:01 AM | #18 |
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Guess the years have finally caught up with my hero ![]() Maybe it’s time for Casey Stoner to come back ![]() Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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January 30th, 2021, 01:33 PM | #19 | |
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January 31st, 2021, 05:12 AM | #20 | |
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