Marc Marquez faces six-month layoff after third surgery on arm - Page 2

michaelm · December 4th, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by p4p1

It's been great to have misfit's insight during this year in regards to MM's injury and I totally agree. He called so much of this well before it all happened. The fact is athletes are generally stupid when it comes to their injuries because winning>quality of life after retirement. The mindset that MM has is the same mindset that set Jordan and Ali apart from their peers but as shone through with Ali it can have it's downsides. Most athletes are goal driven and the next goal is always the most important.

Yes, the CTE thing is a case in point more generally in contact sports in regard to the disregard of athletes, traditionally at least, for there own future welfare.

warthog1 · December 5th, 2020, 01:25 AM

Mick Doohan's fractured leg and early return is another example

p4p1 · December 5th, 2020, 02:04 AM

I was watching the last dance doco a while back and when Jordan got injured and ended up going back to college he went against doctors advice/orders and was playing basketball, exercising etc. it worked out great for him and but it could have quite as easily gone the other way.

Bern1 · December 5th, 2020, 09:54 AM

I’ll echo Michael m re: Misfit’s evaluations. Cool having you in house experts on this forum!

I look forward to MM’s return, whenever it is. For sure we’ve never seen anything like him and I hope he’ll make a fortuitous recovery so that we can see more of it!

Bern1 · December 5th, 2020, 01:03 PM

Man, just read on crash that an infection has been found in his broken arm. Supposedly from one of the previous surgeries?

This is getting darker.

Barbedwirebikerr · December 5th, 2020, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bern1

Man, just read on crash that an infection has been found in his broken arm. Supposedly from one of the previous surgeries?

This is getting darker.

Pseudarthrosis or nonunion is a disease that occurs when a broken bone fails to heal after a fracture unless intervention (surgery) is performed. The fracture structurally resembles a fibrous joint, and for this reason, is called “false joint” or pseudoarthrosis.

I can't add more, as first I've ever heard of the word, and I'm no Dr. Maybe others can elaborate.

MigsAngel · December 5th, 2020, 11:18 PM

Perhaps the newly needed surgeries and infection are from the lack of proper care by Mr MM following his first surgery?
All MM had to do was sit out a few races at the start of the season following the first race, recover and prepare for the rest of the season... instead he tried to be superMM and come back way way before he should have come back.... The buck stops with MM on this one...not the doctors or his management or HRC....

birdman · December 6th, 2020, 12:42 AM

Marquez is far from the first or at current rate the last to suffer. Look at our much revered past champions. It’s not a good look for the sport.

We could take the opportunity to look back and find statistically speaking most of our top and most talented riders have either retired by injury or been lost to the sport entirely, catastrophic included. Sure, we could blame the riders. Alternatively, blame the sport. In Australia we have a highly injury prone sport called rugby league. History indicates if left to the athlete they will tend to suffer injury, even brain damage, simply because the athlete is conditioned to compete at all cost. That’s how you win. Through scrutiny and past player physiological records Rugby League was forced at least in regards to concussion to clean up it’s act.

Motogp I don’t see it, history indicates it can’t be left to the athlete or the team. An independent body, not affected by the financial situation of the sport? I guess it’s possible.

darkkakashi · December 10th, 2020, 03:37 AM

Incredible, even after such situation he is not humbled nor does he take his responsabilities...what is he doing instead ? Officially blaming the doctors !!!!

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/95...finger-doctors

Mrpurple · December 10th, 2020, 05:58 AM

They are a convenient scapegoat for him,but HRC ultimately should have the best doctors on the golden goose.

They let the goose go sky-diving and will continue to pay the price.

December 5th, 2020, 09:54 AM	#14
Bern1 Senior Member Joined: Nov 2015 From: On the edge in California Posts: 353 Likes: 133 I Ride: 1972 BMW R75/5 and 1989 Honda Hawk NT650GT	I’ll echo Michael m re: Misfit’s evaluations. Cool having you in house experts on this forum! I look forward to MM’s return, whenever it is. For sure we’ve never seen anything like him and I hope he’ll make a fortuitous recovery so that we can see more of it! warthog1 likes this.

December 5th, 2020, 11:18 PM	#17
MigsAngel Senior Member Joined: Jun 2007 From: UK Posts: 2,665 Likes: 290 I Ride: 675...	Perhaps the newly needed surgeries and infection are from the lack of proper care by Mr MM following his first surgery? All MM had to do was sit out a few races at the start of the season following the first race, recover and prepare for the rest of the season... instead he tried to be superMM and come back way way before he should have come back.... The buck stops with MM on this one...not the doctors or his management or HRC.... Last edited by MigsAngel; December 5th, 2020 at 11:34 PM.

December 6th, 2020, 12:42 AM	#18
birdman Senior Member Joined: Jul 2011 From: Dont Know Posts: 1,444 Likes: 841	Marquez is far from the first or at current rate the last to suffer. Look at our much revered past champions. It’s not a good look for the sport. We could take the opportunity to look back and find statistically speaking most of our top and most talented riders have either retired by injury or been lost to the sport entirely, catastrophic included. Sure, we could blame the riders. Alternatively, blame the sport. In Australia we have a highly injury prone sport called rugby league. History indicates if left to the athlete they will tend to suffer injury, even brain damage, simply because the athlete is conditioned to compete at all cost. That’s how you win. Through scrutiny and past player physiological records Rugby League was forced at least in regards to concussion to clean up it’s act. Motogp I don’t see it, history indicates it can’t be left to the athlete or the team. An independent body, not affected by the financial situation of the sport? I guess it’s possible. michaelm, JPSLotus and Barbedwirebikerr like this.

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December 5th, 2020, 01:25 AM	#12
warthog1 Member Joined: Feb 2020 From: Bendigo Vic Posts: 98 Likes: 27	Mick Doohan's fractured leg and early return is another example

December 5th, 2020, 02:04 AM	#13
p4p1 Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Fremantle, Australia Posts: 1,881 Likes: 806	I was watching the last dance doco a while back and when Jordan got injured and ended up going back to college he went against doctors advice/orders and was playing basketball, exercising etc. it worked out great for him and but it could have quite as easily gone the other way.

December 5th, 2020, 01:03 PM	#15
Bern1 Senior Member Joined: Nov 2015 From: On the edge in California Posts: 353 Likes: 133 I Ride: 1972 BMW R75/5 and 1989 Honda Hawk NT650GT	Man, just read on crash that an infection has been found in his broken arm. Supposedly from one of the previous surgeries? This is getting darker.

December 10th, 2020, 03:37 AM	#19
darkkakashi Member Joined: Mar 2018 From: swiss Posts: 77 Likes: 10	Incredible, even after such situation he is not humbled nor does he take his responsabilities...what is he doing instead ? Officially blaming the doctors !!!! https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/95...finger-doctors

December 10th, 2020, 05:58 AM	#20
Mrpurple Member Joined: Jun 2019 From: US Posts: 36 Likes: 8	They are a convenient scapegoat for him,but HRC ultimately should have the best doctors on the golden goose. They let the goose go sky-diving and will continue to pay the price.