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November 15th, 2020, 06:12 AM   #21
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Amazing to see Suzuki back on the podium again.

Congrats to Mir of course.

And feckin' great last lap dogfight w Morbi and Miller.

I expect Fabio would have done much better if he'd not been blessed with a 2020 M1.

Sorry to Nakagami go down.
Doubt it. Vinales and Quartaro smashed Morbidelli until half way through the season. Frankie wins in Misano, then Vinales wins the next round with Quartararo also finishing ahead of him of Frankie. Fabio wins the next round at Catalunya and is top Yamaha in France. Vinales is top Yamaha at the first Aragon round by a lot, Morbidelli wins the next race though. IIRC Fabio had great pace after he crashed last week as well. Last years bike being better than this years seems to be based on the last 3 races. Why is it with Yamaha itís always the bike and never the rider despite the bike performing better than any other bike on the grid?
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Doubt it. Vinales and Quartaro smashed Morbidelli until half way through the season. Frankie wins in Misano, then Vinales wins the next round with Quartararo also finishing ahead of him of Frankie. Fabio wins the next round at Catalunya and is top Yamaha in France. Vinales is top Yamaha at the first Aragon round by a lot, Morbidelli wins the next race though. IIRC Fabio had great pace after he crashed last week as well. Last years bike being better than this years seems to be based on the last 3 races. Why is it with Yamaha itís always the bike and never the rider despite the bike performing better than any other bike on the grid?
Undeniable that Morbidelli has better race craft than either of the factory guys, as the last lap in the recent race showed.

Encouraging from Jack, I am a fan but thought he had just about reached his potential. Not really a track suited to the Ducati, and he finally appeared to get the tires to last till the end of a race.
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Amazing to see Suzuki back on the podium again.

Congrats to Mir of course.

And feckin' great last lap dogfight w Morbi and Miller.

I expect Fabio would have done much better if he'd not been blessed with a 2020 M1.

Sorry to Nakagami go down.
A HUGE congrats to Mir and the Suzuki team.

Oh Franko.... oh Miller ... What a final lap. Loved it!

Fabio and Nakagami ... both lost it. Gotta keep the head together guys. If they both don't watch it, they'll crash themselves into needing some psycho assistance.

I'm quietly impressed by Pol. I had given up on him and am now apologising.
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Undeniable that Morbidelli has better race craft than either of the factory guys, as the last lap in the recent race showed.

Encouraging from Jack, I am a fan but thought he had just about reached his potential. Not really a track suited to the Ducati, and he finally appeared to get the tires to last till the end of a race.
Rossi finished just 0.7sec behind Vinales. That was surprising and creditable from Rossi. Quartararo was clearly asking too much of his bike. There's something about the 2020 bike that makes it a handful at times, especially in race trim. What a tumultuous year for them!

Miller was amazing. Pecco's mojo with the bike vanished. You've got to hand it to Miller. He has been the only rider at Ducati able to consistently get decent performance out of the bike over the season. All the other riders shone during one part and lost it for the rest of the season. Dovi never really shone at all.
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With no engine development for next year, that's what they said on BT Sport, I wonder what shape Yamaha will be in and what they'll be able to do to improve on this year.
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Doubt it. Vinales and Quartaro smashed Morbidelli until half way through the season. Frankie wins in Misano, then Vinales wins the next round with Quartararo also finishing ahead of him of Frankie. Fabio wins the next round at Catalunya and is top Yamaha in France. Vinales is top Yamaha at the first Aragon round by a lot, Morbidelli wins the next race though. IIRC Fabio had great pace after he crashed last week as well. Last years bike being better than this years seems to be based on the last 3 races. Why is it with Yamaha it’s always the bike and never the rider despite the bike performing better than any other bike on the grid?
I maintain that Fabio came to the season in high spirits after great results in 2019, but over the course of the season, as other teams were improving, the 2020 M1s were less and less competitive and Fabio over time got mentally burned out from trying to ride around the 2020 bike's deficiencies. Sure Vinales had a moment or two, but then he always seems to have a few good days every season, while OTH - Fabio was pretty damned consistent last year on the 2019 bike. The thing that Morbidelli surely has over Fabio, is passing and dicing. Fabio is more a run away at the front kind of guy in the vein of Pedrosa.
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With no engine development for next year, that's what they said on BT Sport, I wonder what shape Yamaha will be in and what they'll be able to do to improve on this year.
They'll have to buy back all the 2019 bikes.
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After practice and qualifying, I canít really see anyone other than Morbidelli taking the win. I think Mir and Rins can make up considerable places but whether they can get on the podium, Iím not sure. Perhaps top 5. Iíd love to see Nakagami get a podium but Iíve been saying that for weeks. Heíll probably come 4th again. Miller is talking up his race chances but Iím not sure I can see him on the podium either. Pol Espargaro I think could make 3rd again or even 2nd, with maybe one of the other KTMs joining him on the podium. Iím going to go Morbidelli 1st, Pol 2nd, Olivera 3rd, Nakagami 4th, Mir 5th, Rins 6th, Binder 7th!
I didnít do too badly with my predictions. Didnít account for Nakagami crashing or Miller doing so well but I got the rest of the top 7 right, just not in the right order. Knew Morbidelli would win and no Suzukis on the podium. Well done to Mir, I was emotional watching his celebrations. Shame to see Nakagami crash, thatís twice now whilst going for podium positions.
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The word is 2020 Yamaha is great in good grip conditions but loses big when grip is not so good, while 2019 is good everywhere.
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