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November 13th, 2020, 07:06 PM   #11
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I would bet the early return was MM’s idea.
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Good luck to him and i hope he recovers soon.
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I get your point. However, his coming back too soon is the same symptom as trying to prove in practice that the young whippersnappers needn’t bother. Just unnecessary in the larger frame of important things. This failure to be able to hold back just a little has been with him since day one and shows no sign of receding.

Sure getting hit by the bike in the accident was bad luck but if he hadn’t been pushing so hard it would not have happened.
The likes of Doohan, Rainey, Lawson, Stoner and Marquez get to where they are because they don’t hold back. They all suffered injuries in the process. But if holding back means coming second or worst still being knocked off that pedestal of being the most committed rider on the grid well then........Motorsport ain’t tennis.

I don’t expect many to agree but I actually feel this injury related pause could potentially prolong Marquez’s career to avoid burn out. He’s been at it since a very young age afterall. Alternatively he may have now discovered there’s more to life than motogp, not such a bad thing either really.
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The likes of Doohan, Rainey, Lawson, Stoner and Marquez get to where they are because they don’t hold back. They all suffered injuries in the process. But if holding back means coming second or worst still being knocked off that pedestal of being the most committed rider on the grid well then........Motorsport ain’t tennis.

I don’t expect many to agree but I actually feel this injury related pause could potentially prolong Marquez’s career to avoid burn out. He’s been at it since a very young age afterall. Alternatively he may have now discovered there’s more to life than motogp, not such a bad thing either really.
I agree with all of that, but great though he is he does require a functional arm to be a motogp rider, and a 3rd operation which involves a bone graft is rather a worry. One commentator has actually said gruesome though Doohan’s leg injury was he could work around it, working around a suboptimally functioning arm is a little harder to manage.
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I agree with all of that, but great though he is he does require a functional arm to be a motogp rider, and a 3rd operation which involves a bone graft is rather a worry. One commentator has actually said gruesome though Doohan’s leg injury was he could work around it, working around a suboptimally functioning arm is a little harder to manage.
As I’m sure you are aware at its worst point Doohan’s leg was almost at the point of requiring amputation to avoid the spread of infection. If this is Marquez’s injury at its worst point, requiring a bone marrow infusion, potentially not riding again any time soon, banging some hot chicks in the meantime. Not so bad in reality.
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As I’m sure you are aware at its worst point Doohan’s leg was almost at the point of requiring amputation to avoid the spread of infection. If this is Marquez’s injury at its worst point, requiring a bone marrow infusion, potentially not riding again any time soon, banging some hot chicks in the meantime. Not so bad in reality.
No, a bone graft, suggests he has had problems with the vascular supply to the bone as misfit who gives every appearance of having some background in orthopaedics thought might be a problem from the start. If the fracture isn't healing in 4 months or more after 2 operations it is not a given it will ever heal in a satisfactory manner.

I am well aware Mick nearly lost that leg, similarly from vascular supply problems but not just to the bone. He was left with a not very functional leg, although it is much better now after multiple operations post his retirement I am led to believe, and what he did riding with one leg was remarkable, but there were workarounds like the hand/thumb operated brake or whatever, not so much for riding with one arm.

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I would bet the early return was MM’s idea.
Without question. The list of people who failed to stop him from doing so is long though...his team, manager, HRC, hell even his dad should have put their foot down, but this god complex he must have by now...

It sounds like his arm is in bad shape at any rate, and he's keeping quiet about it for his next ride.
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We don't know that, but if doctors who performed this surgery failed to warn him the plate is only to hold it together until it heals and not a bone strength replacement then those people must take most of the blame. But if they did and Marc thought, eh, I have heard these warnings before, nothing happened, than it's Marc himself.
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We don't know that, but if doctors who performed this surgery failed to warn him the plate is only to hold it together until it heals and not a bone strength replacement then those people must take most of the blame. But if they did and Marc thought, eh, I have heard these warnings before, nothing happened, than it's Marc himself.
I can’t imagine he wasn’t told by them, but I could see him thinking Jorge Lorenzo rode 2 days after having a clavicular fracture plated, I am tougher than him. As misfit and I have both said, a fractured humerus, particularly an atypical one such as MM’s, is a different beast than a clavicle fracture however.

What transpired between MM and his own doctors is his personal business, but Dorna/motogp have their own doctors who are independent of MM and his team, and how he was passed fit to ride by them is an entirely different consideration which misfit questioned from the getgo.

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It’s the golden goose thing. The show must always go on from the point of view of those who really benefit monetarily from that,
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