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September 5th, 2020, 04:23 PM   #11
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Yeah . . . Marquez and Doohan both share that drive to dominate. Both are fearless in the face of injuries. Main difference is, Marquez' shoulder is both a much more delicate mechanism and more crucial to the operation of the bike.
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Yeah . . . Marquez and Doohan both share that drive to dominate. Both are fearless in the face of injuries. Main difference is, Marquez' shoulder is both a much more delicate mechanism and more crucial to the operation of the bike.
The humerus as opposed to the clavicle is also fairly important as well though. To paraphrase misfit, I hope not too inaccurately, this is an atypical fracture due to a direct blow rather than a fracture along the lines of stress which heals along those lines, and which he may have re-fractured by riding the next race, and as JPS has also alluded to a speedy complete recovery is not as much a given as is commonly the case with a simple fracture.
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As much experience as HRC have in racing, why did no one stop him riding injured?

Spirit may be important but not as much as a working arm.

Big failure at the top.
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As much experience as HRC have in racing, why did no one stop him riding injured?

Spirit may be important but not as much as a working arm.

Big failure at the top.
Much as it might sound cliche, the longtime perception of Japanese business culture is that they view all employees as tools to be used and disposed of as needed. Of course some tools are more useful than others, but still. I used to wonder if this was a Eurocentric or racist depiction of the culture, but having worked teaching a photo printing workshop for 9 years at an Asian arts collective and asking Japanese teachers there, I found that they very frankly supported this view.
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But employees are assets for business, no different than other assets. When value of an asset goes down it has to be replaced, anything else would be wrong business-wise. It is the socialist fantasy world where they have lost the common sense, mix politics into business and then wonder why the overall prosperity goes down and whole nations go bankrupt. That's the law of nature, and man gets beaten every time when he wants to cheat on nature. Because unlike manmade laws the laws of nature cannot be infringed.
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I doubt anyone including Honda gets to tell MM what to do.
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But employees are assets for business, no different than other assets. When value of an asset goes down it has to be replaced, anything else would be wrong business-wise. It is the socialist fantasy world where they have lost the common sense, mix politics into business and then wonder why the overall prosperity goes down and whole nations go bankrupt. That's the law of nature, and man gets beaten every time when he wants to cheat on nature. Because unlike manmade laws the laws of nature cannot be infringed.
That's exactly how they view it. The Rossi tool goes bad, replace it with a Hayden tool until the Pedrosa tool is properly adjusted and what the heck, the budget is sound, lets supplement the project with a Dovizioso tool until we can buy a Stoner tool etc. etc. etc. The rest I'd happily discuss with you. I love talking politics, but this is just not the place for it. It's never appreciated on forum. And that's putting it mildly.

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But employees are assets for business, no different than other assets. When value of an asset goes down it has to be replaced, anything else would be wrong business-wise.
Oh yeah... tell me about it.

One of my best employees for the preceding 5 yrs went off the deep end for the better part of a year because of non-work-related issues. Once everything sorted itself he was back in top form and the best anywhere at what he does.

He WAS NOT just another asset which, when it "goes down", needed to be replaced. He was an incredibly talented and motivated individual who went through life, like all humans. If I had used your retard business 101 above and "replaced" him my business wouldn't have had anywhere near the growth, success, and equity it had with that employee.
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An expert physiotherapist and osteopath assumes that the unsatisfactory results of Marc Márquez's second operation extend the times of his recovery

Marc Marquez's recovery is getting complicated and times are getting longer. If he had initially tried to get back on track just a few days after his fracture, now the Cabroncito had to give up and throw in the towel at least for the 2020. season. But it's not at all said that the reigning world champion will recover the perfect arm functionality not even on the championship finale.

A Spanish physiotherapist and osteopathic expert, Ruben Garcia Ruiz, who analyzed what happened at number 93: " The first operation

was a success and, although he seemed to have the Terminator's arm, having seen him do the pushups three days after surgery I was as stunned as anyone else ", admits to the microphones of the MotoRaceNation specialized site. " Obviously a professional athlete always has to fight to recover as soon as possible, but what we saw Marquez do was inhuman ".

But precisely this decision to force, in vain, recovery times are at the root of successive complications: "The humerus has been subjected to significant stress that led to a re-operation, which did not go well ", explains Dr. Ruiz. "We saw a picture of Marquez with a cast covering his right arm up to the first finger of his hand. And that picture tells us a lot: if re-operation was normal, that cast shouldn't have gone there, at best up to the elbow or a little lower".

Marquez second surgery failed

The Iberian doctor says that the new operation Marquez was subjected to had an unsatisfactory outcome: "I have a riskier hypothesis: the second surgery may not have gone as well as desired. The truth is that all the stress the bone has been subjected to doesn't make it easy to reposition everything in the right conditions". And for this reason it will take a long time before Marc is back in perfect shape: " Marquez will have a lot of effort to recover his elbow ", concludes Dr. Ruiz." And even if they allow him to try the 2021 prototype before the end of the season, what possible, in my opinion he should refuse, to have time to complete consolidation. If there is an important articulation for a rider, it is that of the elbow, since all the strength you need to carry the motorcycle passes through there ".
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An expert physiotherapist and osteopath assumes that the unsatisfactory results of Marc Márquez's second operation extend the times of his recovery

Marc Marquez's recovery is getting complicated and times are getting longer. If he had initially tried to get back on track just a few days after his fracture, now the Cabroncito had to give up and throw in the towel at least for the 2020. season. But it's not at all said that the reigning world champion will recover the perfect arm functionality not even on the championship finale.

A Spanish physiotherapist and osteopathic expert, Ruben Garcia Ruiz, who analyzed what happened at number 93: " The first operation

was a success and, although he seemed to have the Terminator's arm, having seen him do the pushups three days after surgery I was as stunned as anyone else ", admits to the microphones of the MotoRaceNation specialized site. " Obviously a professional athlete always has to fight to recover as soon as possible, but what we saw Marquez do was inhuman ".

But precisely this decision to force, in vain, recovery times are at the root of successive complications: "The humerus has been subjected to significant stress that led to a re-operation, which did not go well ", explains Dr. Ruiz. "We saw a picture of Marquez with a cast covering his right arm up to the first finger of his hand. And that picture tells us a lot: if re-operation was normal, that cast shouldn't have gone there, at best up to the elbow or a little lower".

Marquez second surgery failed

The Iberian doctor says that the new operation Marquez was subjected to had an unsatisfactory outcome: "I have a riskier hypothesis: the second surgery may not have gone as well as desired. The truth is that all the stress the bone has been subjected to doesn't make it easy to reposition everything in the right conditions". And for this reason it will take a long time before Marc is back in perfect shape: " Marquez will have a lot of effort to recover his elbow ", concludes Dr. Ruiz." And even if they allow him to try the 2021 prototype before the end of the season, what possible, in my opinion he should refuse, to have time to complete consolidation. If there is an important articulation for a rider, it is that of the elbow, since all the strength you need to carry the motorcycle passes through there ".
Yep, thanks for that. Your translation or Google’s ?. Either way quite comprehensible.
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