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August 23rd, 2020, 09:34 PM   #21
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Iíd add in as well Mike that he was able to use his preferred setting in Jerez pt 2. He was the 3rd Yamaha across the line there, he would have been 4th if not for Francoís engine failure. Franco was on the podium in Brno, Rossi wasnít. Rossi was lead Yamaha for the past 2 races both of which have had brake issues for other Yamaha riders.
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Hot? These carbon brakes can run so hot they glow in dark and they still keep working.
Quartararo had unexplained brake issues, the whole brake system was replaced, they couldn't figure out what was wrong. Quartararo complained the lever went soft - this happens when there is a bubble in the system. But how it got there? These brakes have been used for ages, this is not some new product which may have teething issues.
And today Vinales had to jump off the bike - no brakes.
If I was Yamaha I'd drain the fluid and analyze it thoroughly. But I believe they are doing it without me telling them ... Then again, I don't think we will ever hear if they find something wrong with it, bad PR.
In human endeavour given a choice between a (secret) conspiracy and a stuff-up, it is nearly always a stuff-up.
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They had some left overs from the Spies era and VR made sure that were assigned to his rivals.

Anyone think the new fence safe? I noticed that corner has a hill that acted as a ramp last week.
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Interesting to me that the Yamaha brake problems are affecting two sort of separate teams. So whatever the problems are, they appear to be something that the teams share. So it has to be coming from Yamaha itself?
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Interesting to me that the Yamaha brake problems are affecting two sort of separate teams. So whatever the problems are, they appear to be something that the teams share. So it has to be coming from Yamaha itself?
But the brakes would be designed by Brembo using their parts. So that leaves human error as mike suggested. Yamaha failed to take some sort of cooling needs into account or mechanics from the same factory fucked up on the same system two weeks in a row.
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But the brakes would be designed by Brembo using their parts. So that leaves human error as mike suggested. Yamaha failed to take some sort of cooling needs into account or mechanics from the same factory fucked up on the same system two weeks in a row.
I don't think it's a mystery, the brakes and discs themselves are fine - the issue is with the calipers.

Simon touched on this during the race on Sunday and Dovi has confirmed during his debriefs.

Brembo were recommending that only one of the calipers types was to be used at the Red Bull Ring (the one that dissipated heat the best) and Maverick didn't use it - I suspect it was heavier than he would have liked.

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Great race. I did feel sorry for Mir and Nakagami, though. On for their first win and podium, respectively. Itís a shame the time the leaders are ahead by canít be reflected in the restart process somehow, but I get it would be very tricky!
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Great race. I did feel sorry for Mir and Nakagami, though. On for their first win and podium, respectively. Itís a shame the time the leaders are ahead by canít be reflected in the restart process somehow, but I get it would be very tricky!
Even if the lead times were somehow maintained, it's a new race meaning the riders can change tyres and fuel levels. With the current tyres it's like Russian roulette. Dovi benefitted in that his bike came alive when it was a dud on the original set of tyres. Miller could put on a set of softs for a fresh sprint. Mir had to stay with the medium front he started with. I don't know if he had to or that he chose to.
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Enjoyable race, certainly kept you guessing.

Looking forward to San Marino.......flights....check, hotel....check, tickets.....check mask and contact details.........yep
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Misfit, I can’t seem to quote you, but yes you’re right. Even that doesn’t seem fair. I guess there’s no fair solution but it does seem unfair to those who were so far ahead in the first race and end up slipping right back in the second. But that’s racing, I guess! I am a fan of Nakagami so I was particularly sad for him. Hopefully he gets a podium soon, he seems to have really improved this year.
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