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August 23rd, 2020, 06:15 AM   #11
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Is Pol having karma issues?
What's going on with two fastest Yamahas is getting beyond weird. Sabotage?
Reminiscent of the gremlin infested Yamaha garage of Ben Spies' days.
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August 23rd, 2020, 07:15 AM   #12
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A very entertaining race... again! Good one Miguel. Very good one!
Pol didn't do badly himself. He kept it together very well considering how he did the last two races. Miller is certainly getting better and better. Another win for him is just around the corner.
Mir is growing in confidence. Tough break for him in the sprint after the restart.
MV's incident was amazing to watch.
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Ever since Yamaha gave Rossi the green light to modify his bike he's outperformed Quartararo, Viñales, and Morbidelli.
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So what is your favorite method to sabotage brakes? I'd choose some liquid which does not mix with brake fluid and vaporizes when the brake reaches the working temperature. Adding one drop of such a liquid to the brake fluid will result in brake failure during the race. Any other ideas? There must be someone who is willing to pay for these ideas, methinks, a person close to Yamaha.
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So what is your favorite method to sabotage brakes? I'd choose some liquid which does not mix with brake fluid and vaporizes when the brake reaches the working temperature. Adding one drop of such a liquid to the brake fluid will result in brake failure during the race. Any other ideas? There must be someone who is willing to pay for these ideas, methinks, a person close to Yamaha.
Brake fade when they are too hot isn't sabotage, and even suggesting it is sick. If you ride you'd know how scary it can be when something goes wrong at speed... especially anything brake related.
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Brake fade when they are too hot isn't sabotage, and even suggesting it is sick. If you ride you'd know how scary it can be when something goes wrong at speed... especially anything brake related.
C'mon man, it's just idle speculation. Nobody is wishing harm on anyone. Nobody here has magical influence on real world events concerning racing. People are free to kick around ideas without being accused of "thought crime".
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Starting to be a season of confirmations for Yamaha... how many mechanical failures do they have already? :O
Far more than race wins and maybe even podiums.
This rate Fabio may be in trouble.

What happened with Dovi today? he seemed off the pace in both races.

Poor old Mir and Taka, without red flag they would likely be 1st and 2nd.

However racing happened and Oliveira took the advantage by going with the right tyres for him and his ktm making quite a smart aproach to the finish.

Ktm, 4 bikes on top 10.
Cant wait to see how they go on next tracks.

So happy gor Herve, tek3 and Miguel.
Just hope title decider goes all the way to PT with a moto3 style race.
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Hot? These carbon brakes can run so hot they glow in dark and they still keep working.
Quartararo had unexplained brake issues, the whole brake system was replaced, they couldn't figure out what was wrong. Quartararo complained the lever went soft - this happens when there is a bubble in the system. But how it got there? These brakes have been used for ages, this is not some new product which may have teething issues.
And today Vinales had to jump off the bike - no brakes.
If I was Yamaha I'd drain the fluid and analyze it thoroughly. But I believe they are doing it without me telling them ... Then again, I don't think we will ever hear if they find something wrong with it, bad PR.
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So what is your favorite method to sabotage brakes? I'd choose some liquid which does not mix with brake fluid and vaporizes when the brake reaches the working temperature. Adding one drop of such a liquid to the brake fluid will result in brake failure during the race. Any other ideas? There must be someone who is willing to pay for these ideas, methinks, a person close to Yamaha.
A tech with Covid sneezed on the brakes.
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Ever since Yamaha gave Rossi the green light to modify his bike he's outperformed Quartararo, Viñales, and Morbidelli.
Top Yamaha doesn’t cut much ice given he is not so competitive with the rest of the field, and rather a small straw to clutch for fans of a 9 times world champion that the lower reaches of the top 10 is now some sort of victory. Still would seem to have more racecraft than the young riders though, and it is hard to acclaim any alternative development path to Rossi’s currently, although mechanical gremlins seem to be part of the problem, and he has had a race affected by same this year as well

Looks to me that they can’t turn the engine up enough to be competitive against the Ducatis and KTMs around the Red Bull Ring. Embarrassing the Suzuki which also has an inline 4 looks the better bike, although I have lost track of whether they or KTM still have any concessions.
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