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August 16th, 2020, 01:47 PM   #21
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Sure, I didn’t think he was last week either. Just saying after dismissing his comment last week as misfit said it does keep happening.
Yep, there we go again. What a shocking accident which soooo fortunately, left no one seriously injured. Again, Zarco involved. There is something about him I'm now prepared to seriously argue. If you watch F1, Zarco reminds me of Romain Grosjean's racing a few years ago. They both mean well, but there's a blind spot somewhere that creates danger when they race. Morbidelli thought what lead to the incident was very dangerous racing on Zarco's part and of course, Zarco from his POV didn't intend anything and therefore, couldn't appreciate the danger. For some reason, he doesn't have that awareness in racing conditions. In his first season, he had a run of incidents that had me thinking him way too aggressive, but I'm beginning to think there's a blind spot of sorts and a dangerous one.

For me, Mir was the star of the race. I so wanted him to get the second spot and cheered all on my own just now watching him take second on the penultimate corner. OTOH, I felt the opposite about Pol. I think he's way too impatient on the KTM. He makes too many mistakes under braking and he does seem to have a blind spot when rejoining after out-braking himself. Perhaps he goes into corners too hot, so often that getting back on the race line is a bit of a routine for him. Furthermore, he has so often gotten away with rejoining without having to slow and look before doing so. Unfortunately, his routine has ended in tears two races in a row.

Go Dovi.... you show them. A well controlled race.

Got to hand it to Jack.... Hats off to getting the bike on the podium on full softs. I was expecting a lot worse drop off based on his past tyre management issues.

Amazing for Binder to bring the KTM home in fourth from 17th despite all his handling issues this weekend. He is certainly very promising.

I have to say that Rossi, despite his age, is earning his continued place on the grid since his staying there does add to his legacy in a positive way. He certainly has tenacity.

Tough break for Rins. He seemed to be in race winning form.
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That was horribly close to a fatality
Missed Rossi in particular by not much at all, at speed and height.
Check how close it was to Mavericks head.
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Yeah great to see Dovi win after his recent dealings with Ducati.

Would love to see him win the championship and still tell Ducati to get stuffed
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Check how close it was to Mavericks head.
I wasn't aware how close from the live telecast.
Those stills Macca has posted are truly scary!
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Shaping up to be an exceptional season. Horrible crash aside, it was a great race. Had a feeling Dovi would dependably win again. Wondering what options (if any) he has for 21. He's done a great job of out-riding the Ducati's handling limitations, but it's got to be extra challenging for a guy his age. Would love to see what he could do on the KTM.

Miller did a great job. Originally assumed the soft front was a bad choice but apparently he'd used up his allocation of mediums. I really got a better feel for what he's like in the interview. He's growing on me.

For me the star of the race was Mir. Totally jumped out of my seat to cheer when he made that pass. Good stuff! And that . . . from a 17th(I think) place on the grid.

Binder really has the shit. Will be keeping an eye on him.

Yamahas - who knows?

Greatly admire Marquez . . . but honestly, the racing has been better without him.

Crutchlow's looking like The Ancient Mariner.
As has been said, he might win the whole thing as a parting gesture.

All of this is nothing new for Ducati. Surely embarrassing that the guy who has won 15 races (thus far) for them is going to follow the guy who won 23 for them out the door, as well as another multiple race winner for them in Lorenzo. Even Bayliss had no time at all for the premier class operation and brought his WSBK crew with him for his one off win. I don’t know what their relationship with Loris Capirossi is but he doesn’t seem to have much association with them in his retirement either.

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As has been said, he might win the whole thing as a parting gesture.

All of this is nothing new for Ducati. Surely embarrassing that the guy who has won 15 races (thus far) for them is going to follow the guy who won 26 for them out the door, as well as another multiple race winner for them in Lorenzo. Even Bayliss had no time at all for the premier class operation and brought his WSBK crew with him for his one off win. I don’t know what their relationship with Loris Capirossi is but he doesn’t seem to have much association with them in his retirement either.
Yep, their rider relations and people management skills appear sadly lacking.
As you point out, they have an established history of same.
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Yep, there we go again. What a shocking accident which soooo fortunately, left no one seriously injured. Again, Zarco involved. There is something about him I'm now prepared to seriously argue. If you watch F1, Zarco reminds me of Romain Grosjean's racing a few years ago. They both mean well, but there's a blind spot somewhere that creates danger when they race. Morbidelli thought what lead to the incident was very dangerous racing on Zarco's part and of course, Zarco from his POV didn't intend anything and therefore, couldn't appreciate the danger. For some reason, he doesn't have that awareness in racing conditions. In his first season, he had a run of incidents that had me thinking him way too aggressive, but I'm beginning to think there's a blind spot of sorts and a dangerous one.

For me, Mir was the star of the race. I so wanted him to get the second spot and cheered all on my own just now watching him take second on the penultimate corner. OTOH, I felt the opposite about Pol. I think he's way too impatient on the KTM. He makes too many mistakes under braking and he does seem to have a blind spot when rejoining after out-braking himself. Perhaps he goes into corners too hot, so often that getting back on the race line is a bit of a routine for him. Furthermore, he has so often gotten away with rejoining without having to slow and look before doing so. Unfortunately, his routine has ended in tears two races in a row.

Go Dovi.... you show them. A well controlled race.

Got to hand it to Jack.... Hats off to getting the bike on the podium on full softs. I was expecting a lot worse drop off based on his past tyre management issues.

Amazing for Binder to bring the KTM home in fourth from 17th despite all his handling issues this weekend. He is certainly very promising.

I have to say that Rossi, despite his age, is earning his continued place on the grid since his staying there does add to his legacy in a positive way. He certainly has tenacity.

Tough break for Rins. He seemed to be in race winning form.
Yes, have to hand it to Rossi after that incident. I would have gone straight home and not left my room for a year.

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Yes, have to Hand it to Rossi after that incident. I would have gone straight home and not left my room for a year.
I reckon it's about the law of averages with these guys. You see another rider in the race before you get horribly injured or killed and figure, what're the odds of it happening to me? Rins got away with losing the front end and seemed to think that exact same turn couldn't bite him in the ass one lap later. Rossi must have thought Lady Luck had smiled on him when he saw the replay and figured, what could possibly happen after that? And besides, there's peer pressure. If everyone but him went out, he'd look like a pussy. Not saying I concur with the sentiment, but it would definitely occur to him.
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Yes, have to Hand it to Rossi after that incident. I would have gone straight home and not left my room for a year.
Yeah after so long racing and all of the achievements, I could definitely understand him doing that.
A scare like that could easily make you think "do I really need to risk so much anymore".

They are made of strong stuff that is for sure
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