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July 17th, 2020, 03:49 AM   #1
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A sad day for Motogp

Rossi has announced he is NOT retiring...
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July 17th, 2020, 05:23 AM   #2
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I guess it's hard to give up that limelight, though its more of a lamelight now, he won't be hogging a factory seat right?

How strange will it be not hearing boos at the podium?

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Lingering in the last positions these first practices... let's see if he reconsiders his decision if he struggles to finish within the points GP after GP...
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Can’t figure out why he still wants to do it. But I’ve wondered about that for a few years now. On the surface, it appears that he does love the actual racing. Unlike say Doohan or Rainey among others, who were purely driven to win.
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Canít figure out why he still wants to do it. But Iíve wondered about that for a few years now. On the surface, it appears that he does love the actual racing. Unlike say Doohan or Rainey among others, who were purely driven to win.
Youíre a long time retired. Guys like Rainey (who may be a bad example because he was forced to retire), Doohan, Schwantz etc also werenít in the paddock as teens. A guy like Rossi who was doesnít know any other life than the one he is living. Retiring is a huge step into the unknown and he is probably scared. Obviously he could and likely will run his own team and still be in the paddock but it would still be a huge change. So many athletes go on for too long because theyíre scared of retirement and they donít know any other way to live.

I donít have a problem with him remaining on the grid for the most part. He will likely get to be racing against MM when MM eclipses his title count. My only issue is that from his comments the team manager of Petronas didnít want him and wanted a young rider so he is taking up a seat that a younger guy should have. If he had his own team and took up a seat that way he could race until he is 50 for all I care, he isnít taking a seat away from anyone.
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I know Michael (God love him) will cite me for "cod psychology" but as amateur shrink, I'd say these guys in general are good at what they do, in large part because they are narrowly focused in a way that evolves from being relatively two dimensional people, somewhere in the narcissist spectrum, same way many great writers, painters, musicians etc. are. Start riding at the age of 7 on mini-bikes and spend the next 3 decades mentally and physically preparing 7 days a week for that next race, searching continuously for some tiny margin of advantage to shave off a few hundredths of a second, or a better tactic to beat a rider who knows your race-craft as well as you do . . . all so you can stand on that podium and drink in the adulation of the fans, and then coming to realize that it's all slipping away, and knowing that nothing will ever come close to that high; You're looking fucking ego death in the eye. It's why so many successful businessmen continue to work into their '80s despite being multi-billionaires.

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I'm not sure the adulation is the driving force. The bloke is just addicted to racing. He's had the thick end of 3 years without a win so he knows that feeling but he still wants to race and you can bet that he will still get some good results for a man of his age. There's only one winner in each race, that doesn't mean that the other 19 are useless and should retire. Each and every one of them brings something to the event and that's where Rossi's value currently sits.
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I'm not sure the adulation is the driving force. The bloke is just addicted to racing. He's had the thick end of 3 years without a win so he knows that feeling but he still wants to race and you can bet that he will still get some good results for a man of his age. There's only one winner in each race, that doesn't mean that the other 19 are useless and should retire. Each and every one of them brings something to the event and that's where Rossi's value currently sits.
Trust me, you don't need to be on the podium to get a buzz from all that positive attention. I was just a mid-level club racer. I remember crashing at Mid-Ohio, my guys got the bike working (it was an AMA Pro-Am endurance race) and my teammate went out while I had an x-ray, and when he came in, I went out and raced the last hour and twenty minutes. Even back a good 8 seconds down from first place - but finishing the race as a couple thousand people in the stands (who wouldn't know me from Adam) stood up to cheer the top three riders taking the checkers - is a rush.

Even if Rossi never gets in the top ten again, there will be high-powered Yamaha executives, and devoted crew members patting him on the back every ten seconds. There will be reporters from 30 different magazines and sports programs cued up to ask him his opinion on _____ (fill in the blank) and thousands of fans running around the paddock trying to sneak past security just for a chance to get a peek at him, and all the paddock chicks and pit tootsies willing to visit his trailer. Guys like him thrive on the attention. Not all riders are like that, but Rossi? Oh yeah.
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It's interesting with all this COVID down time that has recently effected the sport. Part of me thinks that it has forced Rossi to consider life after being an active Motogp rider in a good way. However reading this thread it also makes me consider that it may also be a frightening reality for him.
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It's interesting with all this COVID down time that has recently effected the sport. Part of me thinks that it has forced Rossi to consider life after being an active Motogp rider in a good way. However reading this thread it also makes me consider that it may also be a frightening reality for him.
I donít think itís just Rossi that will be feeling that. With few exceptions like Crutchlow, now most of the guys on the grid have known no other life since they were teens. Iím a Marquez fan but I donít expect him to bow out at the top or close to the top. He was on the grid younger than Rossi was, as was Quartararo, Vinales etc, I donít think itís just the guys who have or who we expect will win championships that will suffer from the same thing.

We see it in boxers all the time. Sometimes they know they should retire but they donít know any other way to live. I watched a show with 2 recently retired AFL footballers and they both spoke about how for a while after retirement they werenít sure what to do.

On a personal level once I stopped playing competitive sport (obviously not at the level of these guys) but I struggled for a little bit with my own identity now that I wasnít fighting. I would imagine that for someone whoís pushing 40 and been the same thing since they were a teen itís 1000x worse.
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