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July 19th, 2020, 08:34 PM   #11
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I struck an interest in MotoGP last year, a long time since the Rossi golden years. I've wondered why the idolization of someone that's lucky to get even fifth now, but in learning about the sport I've discovered Rossi's track record and that he has the highest net worth out of any MotoGP racer by far. He does public relations the same way Marquez does first place finishes.

If someone like Rossi is so dedicated to racing and wants to keep doing so, why has he let himself slump to the back of the pack? It surely can't be "because his body is aging and he is slowing down", it must be because he is complacent.

Personally, I am a Dovi fan to the core and want to see Dovi improve year after year to beat Marquez; but its interesting to see Miller's performance at Jerez, I wonder if Miller has the capacity to outperform Dovi and become the new Team Ducati favorite.
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I struck an interest in MotoGP last year, a long time since the Rossi golden years. I've wondered why the idolization of someone that's lucky to get even fifth now, but in learning about the sport I've discovered Rossi's track record and that he has the highest net worth out of any MotoGP racer by far. He does public relations the same way Marquez does first place finishes.

If someone like Rossi is so dedicated to racing and wants to keep doing so, why has he let himself slump to the back of the pack? It surely can't be "because his body is aging and he is slowing down", it must be because he is complacent.

Personally, I am a Dovi fan to the core and want to see Dovi improve year after year to beat Marquez; but its interesting to see Miller's performance at Jerez, I wonder if Miller has the capacity to outperform Dovi and become the new Team Ducati favorite.
Your inexperience is showing!
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I don't think the announcement has been made for Rossi yet? He had a poor showing over the entire weekend and seemed to be the last Yamaha almost every session. The race could be put down to a poor tyre choice, despite Mav being able to finish 2nd. I'm not sure if he will rush to sign anything after this weekend. He must be holding out for something in the contract to have not signed it yet but if next weekend is a repeat of this weekend I'm not sure he will keep going.
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I struck an interest in MotoGP last year, a long time since the Rossi golden years. I've wondered why the idolization of someone that's lucky to get even fifth now, but in learning about the sport I've discovered Rossi's track record and that he has the highest net worth out of any MotoGP racer by far. He does public relations the same way Marquez does first place finishes.

If someone like Rossi is so dedicated to racing and wants to keep doing so, why has he let himself slump to the back of the pack? It surely can't be "because his body is aging and he is slowing down", it must be because he is complacent.

Personally, I am a Dovi fan to the core and want to see Dovi improve year after year to beat Marquez; but its interesting to see Miller's performance at Jerez, I wonder if Miller has the capacity to outperform Dovi and become the new Team Ducati favorite.

Yup...you certainly don't know what you're talking about. You must be very young and therefore not so smart. If you are you will soon realize as you age your performance in EVERYTHING gradually declines, including the speed which you walk. Why are there no 40 year old hockey players, soccer players, milers, basketball players?

Rossi at age 40 is fighting declining VO2 max, that been declining for 10 years already, a maximum heart rate that keeps declining and will never be as it was at peak. Even increasing his training to 'overcome' this is useless as there is point of peak benefit, you can train an extra 2 hours/day you aren't going to improve, just tired yourself out. How do I know this? As a former amateur distance runner who's fastest times came in my very early 30's, no matter what I do or how hard I train the speed/endurance is G O N E and never coming back. For Rossi to still be able to compete and up until 1-2 year ago even beat his teamate who's almost 20 years younger is still incredible and he does certainly deserve to still be on the grid.
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I struck an interest in MotoGP last year, a long time since the Rossi golden years. I've wondered why the idolization of someone that's lucky to get even fifth now, but in learning about the sport I've discovered Rossi's track record and that he has the highest net worth out of any MotoGP racer by far. He does public relations the same way Marquez does first place finishes.

If someone like Rossi is so dedicated to racing and wants to keep doing so, why has he let himself slump to the back of the pack? It surely can't be "because his body is aging and he is slowing down", it must be because he is complacent.

Personally, I am a Dovi fan to the core and want to see Dovi improve year after year to beat Marquez; but its interesting to see Miller's performance at Jerez, I wonder if Miller has the capacity to outperform Dovi and become the new Team Ducati favorite.
Welcome Mate. Ignore the trolls with nothing better to do than insult a new member. They are a small minority here. Don't even reply to them. It just encourages them.

The general consensus is that Rossi is not complacent. He's just not a kid anymore, and thus far, apparently not able to come to terms with the fact that he'll never again be fully competitive. It's really that simple.

Oh . . . and congrats on being a Dovi fan.
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Yup...you certainly don't know what you're talking about. You must be very young and therefore not so smart. If you are you will soon realize as you age your performance in EVERYTHING gradually declines, including the speed which you walk. Why are there no 40 year old hockey players, soccer players, milers, basketball players?

Rossi at age 40 is fighting declining VO2 max, that been declining for 10 years already, a maximum heart rate that keeps declining and will never be as it was at peak. Even increasing his training to 'overcome' this is useless as there is point of peak benefit, you can train an extra 2 hours/day you aren't going to improve, just tired yourself out. How do I know this? As a former amateur distance runner who's fastest times came in my very early 30's, no matter what I do or how hard I train the speed/endurance is G O N E and never coming back. For Rossi to still be able to compete and up until 1-2 year ago even beat his teamate who's almost 20 years younger is still incredible and he does certainly deserve to still be on the grid.
Everything you said before your last 11 words is at odds with them.
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I think Rossi just loves the sport and can't yet think of doing anything else. He gets a lot of fun and attention out of being in it. He has also expressed a desire to race with his brother. But, his performance is palpably declining and the tough conditions of the race sure showed up his age when the cameras were on him after his DNF.
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Everything you said before your last 11 words is at odds with them.
You always been at odds with your expanding dementia. Like it or not Rossi will be riding into 2021. Deal with it.
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You always been at odds with your expanding dementia. Like it or not Rossi will be riding into 2021. Deal with it.
While, I agree that Rossi could well be riding into 2021, this doesn't mean I agree with him deserving to be doing so; certainly not from a raw competitive standpoint. His level of performance would normally be tolerated by a team only if they expect improvement because he's just beginning in the series.

Rossi will be racing next year for purely commercial reasons. Despite his apparently huge fan base on this discussion board, , his continuing to race makes for a spectacle in itself for many of his fans and his brand will certainly bring attention to the sport and the team he's with.
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You always been at odds with your expanding dementia. Like it or not Rossi will be riding into 2021. Deal with it.
Living on fading memories would appear to be more your predilection than mine.

Of course he will be there unless he retires. There are reasons why he will be there, as misfit has listed, but as you yourself detailed they no longer include his riding justifying his presence on the grid. Time waits for no one, as some other old codgers sung when they were younger. Agostini, Lawson and Doohan were pretty good as well, but they are not out there still riding in the premier class.

I am on board with him actually liking riding for itself, as earlier posters in this thread have said, unlike Doohan and probably Marquez who just wanted/want to win. But it is something of a circus now, in a different way than it was in his pomp, and I don't think on the factory team he has offered much even development wise in recent years, his preferences being different than those of the younger Yamaha riders and their implementation probably damaging to their cause. If Petronas are happy to have him for the money or publicity he brings fine, but it appears they may have had a plan for the seat he will take next year.

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