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July 20th, 2020, 06:48 AM   #71
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What disgusting? I too have been saying for some years now to friends when we watch that Marc is probably going to kill him self or someone else one day. I don't wish that, but it's the way he rides and has ALWAYS ridden.

And it's about time means that him walking away from crashes without serious injuries will stop as a matter of probability.
He was Murder Marc as a teenage moto 2 rider, ask Willairot; MM ended his career and nearly his own.

In recent years in his pomp he has continued to be a danger to himself, as this weekend demonstrated, but as far as the risk to other riders has been guilty of no more than good hard racing as Rossi’s fans were wont to classify similar behaviour in Rossi’s pomp. Valentino lost the 2015 title off his own bat by not being fast enough in the concluding races of the 2015 season, and even Sepang was pretty much a re-creation of Motegi 2010, and Rossi pretty much got what he deserved imo if we are discussing just deserts, particularly after calling MM out to the world as a cheat on the rather unlikely basis that he had tanked a race he actually won.

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That was a massive off. He couldn't move his arm at all. I don't think he will be racing for a while. I hope I'm wrong. That race encapsulates everything that is Marc Marquez. Awesome.
The return of Win-it-or-bin-it Marc. All those hard-earned lessons to evolve a more mature and pragmatic Marc, out the window.
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He was Murder Marc as a teenage moto 2 rider, ask Willairot; MM ended his career and nearly his own.

In recent years in his pomp he has continued to be a danger to himself, as this weekend demonstrated, but as far as the risk to other riders has been guilty of no more than good hard racing as Rossiís fans were wont to classify similar behaviour in Rossiís pomp. Valentino lost the 2015 title off his own bat by not being fast enough in the concluding races of the 2015 season, and even Sepang was pretty much a re-creation of Motegi 2010, and Rossi pretty much got what he deserved imo if we are discussing just deserts, particularly after calling MM out to the world as a cheat on the rather unlikely basis that he had tanked a race he actually won.
Lol. Whataboutism. Yeah Rossi has had some rubbing is racing moments, dumb overtakes, and pure malicious asshole moments, etc.

In my opinion the difference is that Marc doesn't have moments, his exciting balls out riding is the default, and while not malicious this is why I think what I said.
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I don't buy this whole shit of "he can end his career, paralysis", bla bla, hell, it's just an humerus breaking, nothing special. Who the hell have never had a broken arm bone before on incredible conditions? It's always that awkward feeling "how was it possible ??? I'll never get 100% healed, I'm lost, buaaaa" ...Tuesday surgeon will implant a plate and some screws and sooner than expected the kid will be just racing around as always. I remember both Rossi and Lorenzo racing with a broken leg in less than a month time span, it's not a big deal for these guys. I don't even doubt that he will be almost fully fit up until 1 month, you know, these high level athletes gets on steroids and HR therapies all the time to recover a lot faster.

But the title race is gone, that is for sure. Bad for Marc, good for the show either. It was about time a shit like this would be happening to him, today he has ridden like a mad on cocaine. Remind me Ayrton Senna on his glory days.

He's fast as hell, but sometimes Marc is dumb as hell too. After almost throwing away his race, making such a comeback, the last thing he needed was forcing over the limit on a battered Vinales with 5 laps remaining. Even a 3rd or a 4th place would be such an important result, and next week he could race for the win.

Whatever..as Stoner once said, ambition sometimes outweigh talent.
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Your views are quite frankly disgusting, to wish such misfortune upon a rider like that. You are certainly no fan of this sport, or its riders for that matter.
Guys, I can't speak for you gui22 but it seems to me this is just a misunderstanding due to languages. I don't see any ill will towards Marc, just a frank assessment of risk accumulating.
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Right after he got behind MV, a text should have gone out in Spanish...

'take a breath'
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Lol. Whataboutism. Yeah Rossi has had some rubbing is racing moments, dumb overtakes, and pure malicious asshole moments, etc.

In my opinion the difference is that Marc doesn't have moments, his exciting balls out riding is the default, and while not malicious this is why I think what I said.
To my mind, the difference is Marc's hard passes don't seem intended to upset the rider. He pretty much goes by the spirit of the rules. Whereas Rossi always seems to think his popularity with the fans exempts him from the constraints of petty things like good sportsmanship.
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Get well soon MM.
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Fuck me! Good to see you man.
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Lol. Whataboutism. Yeah Rossi has had some rubbing is racing moments, dumb overtakes, and pure malicious asshole moments, etc.

In my opinion the difference is that Marc doesn't have moments, his exciting balls out riding is the default, and while not malicious this is why I think what I said.
Partly prompted by paparazzoís post which preceded yours; he actually is one of the usual suspects.

It was crazy for MM to be pushing as he was with several laps to pass MV who was focussing on getting his bike home rather than looking to dice with MM, and FQ seemed out of range even for him, but I donít think the highside was really due to recklessness, I think he was probably caught out by his bike behaving differently on the new Michelins. He wonít have seen this in testing or qualifying, he only goes into full hyper mode when faced with a challenge in a race, like the last lap at PI 2015, and occasionally for a qualifying lap, such as at Sepang 2015.

Whataboutism aside, I donít think he rides with disregard for the safety of others anymore.
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Guys, I can't speak for you gui22 but it seems to me this is just a misunderstanding due to languages. I don't see any ill will towards Marc, just a frank assessment of risk accumulating.
You get to excuse me but I don't think this is a problem of comprehension, neither of regional culture nor something linked to linguistic. It's just logic!

If you risk over the limit, your probability of accident increases proportionally! In fact, even riders had been saying MM would inflict himself sooner rather than later riding over the limit. Even Alain Prost said once: "Senna think he's immortal." What the fuck? I don't like Prost for obvious reasons, but he wasn't wishing Senna's death, obviously! He was just doing simple math! How many times MM has fallen until today? It's obvious, by simple MATH, he would wound himself heavily sooner or later. Simple as that! But by the "logic" of our colleague rat (now I get his nick) we that do math are just wishing misfortunes! I never wished for MM breaking his arm!

So what difference in saying that, independent of the language being spoke?

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