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February 5th, 2020, 12:50 PM   #21
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He tried hard on that Honda and kept crashing. Methinks he couldn't bully it around as Marc does, he needed to sense the front end - something Honda did not have for him.
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Catalunya was do or die for him and he died, then he really died when he crushed his back testing later on.

I reeeeeally would have liked seeing what would have happened had he had success in that Race instead of taking out half the competition.
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@gui22a,

shakedown test is for test riders, rookies are allowed to take part, too. The main testing for all riders starts on seventh.

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Yamaha: Jorge Lorenzo, Katsuyuki Nakasuga, Kohta Nozane
Honda: Stefan Bradl, Alex Marquez
KTM: Dani Pedrosa, Mika Kallio, Iker Lecuona, Brad Binder, Pol Espargaro, Miguel Oliveira
Ducati: Michele Pirro
Suzuki: Sylvain Guintoli
Aprilia: Lorenzo Savadori, Bradley Smith, Aleix Espargaro
Hahahaha Yamaha want their heads looking at hiring Lorenzo - one of the worst riders fo wanting his bike messed with (because he can't ride it) and then lost his bottle!! What sort of feedback would you trust from him???
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Hahahaha Yamaha want their heads looking at hiring Lorenzo - one of the worst riders fo wanting his bike messed with (because he can't ride it) and then lost his bottle!! What sort of feedback would you trust from him???
This may have applied on the Honda, but probably not at Ducati where his tenure coincided with the bike’s greatest recent success including getting the bike to a stage where he himself could win on it, and certainly not at Yamaha where he was the winner of the last 3 riders’ championships won by a Yamaha rider, and where it seems it has now been recognised his development was better than Rossi’s in his latter days hence him being re-hired as a test rider.
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February 7th, 2020, 04:34 AM   #25
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Day one ended wet.
Quartararo and Morbidelli made it to 1.58, which is strong time. Both riding modified 2019 bike.
Zarco started slow and advanced pretty fast, ended 1.5 seconds off pace. Indeed, there is still a mountain to climb, the last half a second is the hardest. We'll see.
Miller fastest Ducati, Crutchlow fastest Honda.
Aleix on Aprilia faster than Pol on KTM.

That's all what caught my attention. You?
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He tried hard on that Honda and kept crashing. Methinks he couldn't bully it around as Marc does, he needed to sense the front end - something Honda did not have for him.
Interestingly, the one word he used to describe the Honda was 'agile', i.e., that it's an agile bike. He described the Ducati as 'powerful' and the Yamaha as 'very good for a smooth rider'.
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I don't think so. Marc seems to be Stoner-like talent, he will ride anything and exploit its strengths.
I agree with this. Marquez is seriously special. The Honda came across as difficult but seriously fast if you could unlock its potential. Marquez did it in ways none of the other riders could. I'm sure, he would ride the wheels off the Ducati and especially, the Yamaha if given the chance.
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I agree with this. Marquez is seriously special. The Honda came across as difficult but seriously fast if you could unlock its potential. Marquez did it in ways none of the other riders could. I'm sure, he would ride the wheels off the Ducati and especially, the Yamaha if given the chance.
With hindsight I reckon many hard-core fans, are less inclined to buy into the idea of the great Honda dollar as the be-all defining factor in it’s championships over the last five decades. I’d argue their ability to hire exceptional riders has figured much more prominently than people generally think. I expect the money aspect factored much more in the pre-Rossi era. My perception has been the big three were much more equal in the Spencer, Roberts, Lawson era.

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I agree with this. Marquez is seriously special. The Honda came across as difficult but seriously fast if you could unlock its potential. Marquez did it in ways none of the other riders could. I'm sure, he would ride the wheels off the Ducati and especially, the Yamaha if given the chance.
Oh I beg to differ. Lorenzo's smooth in-line style has been proven to be the quickest way to ride the current M1. Marquez has never had a smooth in-line style of riding. Yamaha would have to make drastic changes to the bike to suit Marc's riding style, or Marc would have to try to ride like Lorenzo... that's just as big of a challenge as Lorenzo attempting to ride the Honda like Marc does.
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