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imunderandoverit January 29th, 2020 06:30 AM

Quartararo in, Rossi out.
 
Interesting. What you all think?

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/93...-comments-ajax

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/...21-2022/322667

MigsAngel January 29th, 2020 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by imunderandoverit (Post 463235)

Not surprising given Rossi's age....

I wont be surprised if he join Petronas for a year, becomes Yamaha Factory Team manager, become the new Dorna manager, or retires to live after 2020...

All the best on any decision he makes on his future...

It does look though as Yamaha has the best/strongest 2021+ team at the moment though....since in my view the Marquez pairing at HRC isnt going to work out for HRC long term....and it leaves Ducati a little bit out in the cold if they dont elevate the likes of Miller and Zarco quickly....KTMs future should be okay so long they bike comes good soon....Suzuki who?

Segfault January 29th, 2020 09:49 AM

From bits and pieces of information leaking thru it happened like this.
(Ducati was sure they have got Vinales and missed the whole thing big time, this seems to be a feature of Italian management.)
Yamaha knew they have to act fast to retain Vinales. So it was something like this:

Yamaha: We want you to sign a new contract, now.
Vinales: Will you do what I need to win?
Y: Yes, just name it.
V: Get rid of Rossi.
Y (instant answer): Consider it done, anything else?

And it was done without even notifying Rossi.

evo9 January 29th, 2020 10:25 AM

Like I said yamaha finally grew a pair of balls. Or at least so it seems at the moment

gui22a January 29th, 2020 11:22 AM

Absolutely RIGHT move.

michaelm January 29th, 2020 04:03 PM

I am not sure I agree with the title of the thread, Valentino’s current contract as I understand it was only until the end of this season, and no-one has said afaik that there was any expectation of him continuing for the factory Yamaha team in 2021, a season when he would be 42 lining up on the grid in Qatar should he continue racing.

I guess he can go to Petronas in 2021 if he has a good year, but even for him it surely has to end some day. The only surprise for me is no mention of Rossi in all this, which may mean he can’t make up his mind about his future including possible future roles for Yamaha (I have always had a theory he told them he was going to retire if he won the 2009 title then changed his mind) rather than that they felt no need to say anything face saving on his behalf. Time marches on, and I guess they had to move quickly to stop MV and FQ signing with Ducati.

Macca January 30th, 2020 12:51 AM

Yamaha have signed Jorge as a test rider as well.

They really are planning to take it to Marquez!

michaelm January 30th, 2020 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Macca (Post 463246)
Yamaha have signed Jorge as a test rider as well.

They really are planning to take it to Marquez!

Interesting.

That would be the way to go on the Vinales front, I think they had similar preferences including tires.

p4p1 January 30th, 2020 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by michaelm (Post 463245)
I am not sure I agree with the title of the thread, Valentinoís current contract as I understand it was only until the end of this season, and no-one has said afaik that there was any expectation of him continuing for the factory Yamaha team in 2021, a season when he would be 42 lining up on the grid in Qatar should he continue racing.

I guess he can go to Petronas in 2021 if he has a good year, but even for him it surely has to end some day. The only surprise for me is no mention of Rossi in all this, which may mean he canít make up his mind about his future including possible future roles for Yamaha (I have always had a theory he told them he was going to retire if he won the 2009 title then changed his mind) rather than that they felt no need to say anything face saving on his behalf. Time marches on, and I guess they had to move quickly to stop MV and FQ signing with Ducati.

I still donít get what is in it for Petronas to sign Rossi. They donít need the sponsorship money, his results will likely only get worse and he doesnít have the best reputation when it comes being easy to work with. It makes sense for Dorna to want to keep Rossi around though. Petronas would prefer an upcoming rider I would imagine.

But Iím surprised that Yamaha had the balls to make a quick, smart decision like this. Undoubtably the two best options for them on the grid as far as we know despite Fabio being unproven and Maverick still being Maverick. Lorenzo now the test rider, which kind of doesnít make a heap of sense to me given he retired because he was worried about being paralysed and being a test rider doesnít really take away that possibility totally.

Should be an exciting season though and unless Honda fixes/has fixed their front end issues Marquez might have an actual fight on his hands.

Segfault January 30th, 2020 05:03 AM

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But I’m surprised that Yamaha had the balls to make a quick, smart decision like this.
We do not see behind the scenes. There is PR, and they keep up whatever seems feasible at the moment shaping the image for general public. The plan getting rid of Rossi was probably ready for years, now they simply executed it.


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