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November 21st, 2019, 03:55 AM   #11
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The subscription is still the best option available to me, imo. It feels expensive but I think over the year, it's reasonable. More races all the time, too. Mine auto renewed without me really realising so I got access to testing and spent the last couple of days listening to the commentary and watching live timing screens "while I worked". I like having access to the testing.

I can't remember how much i paid initially and I think the talk of it having doubled over the last few years is accurate.

I also like that I can go back and watch old stuff any time I want. Lorenzo rides on, in my house.... sigh
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November 21st, 2019, 04:18 AM   #12
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Now we are in the real world with real people. Nobody cares about the real value of service, the only thing that matters is affordability. And this is relative, depending on income.
But then again, if people paid only for things what are worth paying for it then for instance Microsoft would have been out of business for decades now. (Their main product is still not capable of connecting safely to the internet.)
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November 21st, 2019, 04:19 AM   #13
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Nothing wrong with that.

Edit: I'm not sure I recall it correctly, I think I paid $50 for my first year, long time ago. Maybe it was $60. It would still be in the same price range if there was competition instead of monopoly.


So i am not the only person who thinks Rossi made MotoGP Pay to watch when it was free to watch in many many places?

I think only Aus has the free race on channel ONE currently.
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Not Rossi. Don't mix tools with masters who use these tools. Rossi was paid good for his services, but the real money goes to the business owners. They made us pay for it because they could. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.

Edit: They price they are charging for Videopass has nothing to do with expenses associated with the service. This is the price they have found balances with current market conditions. If they increased the price there probably would be more subscribers dropping it, less price would shrink profits. So they charge as much as they can, to maximize the profits. In free market conditions the price drops when the number of customers increases, this is natural. It is all different if you have monopoly.

Edit 2: Look at the numbers here. See these zeroes? No matter how much they pay Rossi, it is a drop in the bucket.
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Not Rossi. Don't mix tools with masters who use these tools. Rossi was paid good for his services, but the real money goes to the business owners. They made us pay for it because they could. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.

Edit: They price they are charging for Videopass has nothing to do with expenses associated with the service. This is the price they have found balances with current market conditions. If they increased the price there probably would be more subscribers dropping it, less price would shrink profits. So they charge as much as they can, to maximize the profits. In free market conditions the price drops when the number of customers increases, this is natural. It is all different if you have monopoly.

Edit 2: Look at the numbers here. See these zeroes? No matter how much they pay Rossi, it is a drop in the bucket.
I may have not expressed my opinion correctly.

I didn't mean Rossi is the one getting more pay per PPV, I meant that Dorna knew they would cash in because them Rossi fans would spend their hard earned bucks on him no matter what.

Pay for subscriptions, buy hats and shirts etc etc.

Had he not pulled in this huge (albeit disgusting in my opinion) fanbase ready to throw money at anything featuring him this wouldn't have happened, at least not this soon.

Still just an opinion but I am quite certain its like this because of what I say, especially if we consider the timings.
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F>>k me.. I'ts amazing what VR is held responsible for these days.

I find my subscription great value, especially when compared to what I have to pay for in Formula 1.

Live streaming plus streaming on demand plus access to archives during the subscription period. Pre and post race press conferences, practice streaming etc.

Not to mention this is for Moto 1 &2 as well as MotoGP.
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I don't think so, I did have to renew my annual video pass to watch the valencia test. Not sure why your auto billing did not renew itself?
you are correct i found the problem my auto bill didnt go through because my CC number was stolen earlier in the year. the card number changed and got rejected. everything is good now.

thank you
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you are correct i found the problem my auto bill didnt go through because my CC number was stolen earlier in the year. the card number changed and got rejected. everything is good now.

thank you
Hahaha, exactly the same thing happened to me with my card.
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November 22nd, 2019, 01:23 AM   #19
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F>>k me.. I'ts amazing what VR is held responsible for these days.

I find my subscription great value, especially when compared to what I have to pay for in Formula 1.

Live streaming plus streaming on demand plus access to archives during the subscription period. Pre and post race press conferences, practice streaming etc.

Not to mention this is for Moto 1 &2 as well as MotoGP.


He did it to himself for sticking around and being a cunt for so long & I have a point too.
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So i am not the only person who thinks Rossi made MotoGP Pay to watch when it was free to watch in many many places?

I think only Aus has the free race on channel ONE currently.
It's free in India. I lived there for a while.
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