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November 18th, 2019, 12:12 PM   #11
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I did hear the commentators say that he had 3 tests lined up, however I thought they were being a bit sarcastic
They were being satirical based on the amount of rumor being spread.
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I did hear the commentators say that he had 3 tests lined up, however I thought they were being a bit sarcastic

in all honesty, I do not think Zarco deserves a MotoGP ride... his attitude, and some of the comments he has made far exceed his results. to quote Top Gun, his ego is writing checks his body can't cash... the way hey left KTM, turning down a possible Avintia ride when he had nothing else, assuming the VDS ride would be his...
Results . . . hampered by a shite chassis design which by all appearances is more dear to KTM than actual results, which could I imagine be infuriating for a rider who's been sold a big dream package of more or less unlimited all out effort to create a competitive machine - that turns out in fact to a mirage. Especially for a rider who was doing really well on the previous team; a rider who is in the prime of his life career-wise, who might just resent wasting time on machinery that is developmentally retarded by bad decisions made by corporate hacks.

Not saying this is exactly what happened, but certainly something like it.

Re: Ego, none of these guys regardless of how chill they may appear in front of a TV camera, are without HUGE egos.

And BTW - I don't hold to this idea that a rider should meekly sit around with his thumb up his ass saying nothing to the press that might shed a less than complementary picture of his employer. These guys are hired to race; not to be corporate shills.

If Rossi hadn't pissed and moaned to the press, who knows? Ducati might still be dragging around in 15th place with that stupid trellis frame.
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Zarco to Moto 2 according to AS.
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If Rossi hadn't pissed and moaned to the press, who knows? Ducati might still be dragging around in 15th place with that stupid trellis frame.
Or they might have perfected the carbon fibre chassis; they had already ditched the trellis frame. I tend to doubt it though; whether or not Presioziís brainchild viable in general the control tire rule has basically put paid to unconventional riding styles let alone unconventional chassis. Rather a complete circle given that Rossiís insistence on switching tires for 2008 basically led to the control tire rule and his current tire complaints.
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Or they might have perfected the carbon fibre chassis; they had already ditched the trellis frame. I tend to doubt it though; whether or not Presioziís brainchild viable in general the control tire rule has basically put paid to unconventional riding styles let alone unconventional chassis. Rather a complete circle given that Rossiís insistence on switching tires for 2008 basically led to the control tire rule and his current tire complaints.
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Results . . . hampered by a shite chassis design which by all appearances is more dear to KTM than actual results, which could I imagine be infuriating for a rider who's been sold a big dream package of more or less unlimited all out effort to create a competitive machine - that turns out in fact to a mirage. Especially for a rider who was doing really well on the previous team; a rider who is in the prime of his life career-wise, who might just resent wasting time on machinery that is developmentally retarded by bad decisions made by corporate hacks.

Not saying this is exactly what happened, but certainly something like it.

Re: Ego, none of these guys regardless of how chill they may appear in front of a TV camera, are without HUGE egos.

And BTW - I don't hold to this idea that a rider should meekly sit around with his thumb up his ass saying nothing to the press that might shed a less than complementary picture of his employer. These guys are hired to race; not to be corporate shills.

If Rossi hadn't pissed and moaned to the press, who knows? Ducati might still be dragging around in 15th place with that stupid trellis frame.
Zarco went for the big payday with KTM, which I dont have a problem with. but after reading a few reports, and listening to what Aleix had to say about him, how negative he was with the team, he created his own mess.
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Maybe not that much the payday, methinks he wants the prestige of being a factory rider. Some folks are funny that way, you know.
Not sure what he is waiting for now. There is no prestige at Avinitia. Perhaps he hopes Alex starts crying and goes home, leaving Honda seat to him?
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Maybe not that much the payday, methinks he wants the prestige of being a factory rider. Some folks are funny that way, you know.
Not sure what he is waiting for now. There is no prestige at Avinitia. Perhaps he hopes Alex starts crying and goes home, leaving Honda seat to him?
The way he ended it with KTM was poor, not the way factory teams work especially in front of the media. he burned his next opportunity to work with a factory team, he is not someone factory teams want representing their brand right now. He doesn't like the prestige of riding for Avintia, well thats all he's got at the moment.
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Leaving the prestige out of equation. What perspective has he got.
Avinitia. Making friends at Ducati, when frequenting top ten next year on GP19 then the the big shuffle for 2021 may land him in the factory squad.
Moto2. Good team, if he manages to lift the title again then it certainly will open some doors.
There is a risk with both, what if he can't get anywhere on that GP19? What if he gets beaten in Moto2?
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Leaving the prestige out of equation. What perspective has he got.
Avinitia. Making friends at Ducati, when frequenting top ten next year on GP19 then the the big shuffle for 2021 may land him in the factory squad.
Moto2. Good team, if he manages to lift the title again then it certainly will open some doors.
There is a risk with both, what if he can't get anywhere on that GP19? What if he gets beaten in Moto2?
I have to agree here. To me he can only play the long game and rebuild his reputation. Moto 2 is probably the longer game though, no? As in the 2021 Duc reshuffle seems immanent and why not show what (if any) he has on a somewhat inferior Duc to be poised for the possible Duc seat?
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