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View Poll Results: Who gets Lorenzo's ride?
Zarco 19 76.00%
Crutchlow 1 4.00%
Alex Marquez 5 20.00%
other 0 0%
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November 16th, 2019, 01:10 PM   #31
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Done deal, it's Alex >https://www.speedweek.com/motogp/new...sol-Honda.html
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Big mistake - I think.
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Big mistake - I think.
Not for Honda if it helps them keep MM. He might even be keener on the bike being made more tractable, something he himself doesn’t need.

Otherwise maybe. The bike may not suit Alex, and being smashed by your team-mate is being smashed by your team-mate even if he is your brother.

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HEY Dicks the subject of the topic is who gets the ride and not who is the most knowledgeable twat of the forum

I would say 1 year contract for Cructhlow at HRC (reward type and at the same time they wont scare a future top prospect that crutchlow retains the seat, they have to factor in the 2021 market)

Alex at LCR 1 year to make Marc happy

There is no downside for honda with the above, keeping marc happy, pre retirement crutchlow last year reward, option bid on Alex

And completely free to market anyone for 2 seats in 2021 (1 at HRC and 1 at LCR)

I think ducati will be willing to offer marc around 40mm but he wont move
I basically agree, they will do whatever it takes to keep MM happy, he brings more to their bike than tens of millions of engineering expenditure.
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The bike has lost the front end feel and is now a bit more difficult to turn. Those are the two complaints.
The 2018 bike was difficult to ride as well, cf the results of other riders in that year in the main, and the stated rationale of hiring Lorenzo being partly to develop the bike to improve tractability.
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Not for Honda if it helps them keep MM. He might even
Be keener on the bike being made more tractable, something he himself doesn’t need.

Otherwise maybe. The bike may not suit Alex, and being smashed by your team-mate is being smashed by your team-mate even if he is your brother.
No reason to think he'll do anything to help any competitor. Not even his brother.

My guess is he'd stay at HRC until he's got 10 (if that really is the "magic number") and by then, he may be so banged up that his value won't be the same. A lot can change in a few years. In the meantime HRC could have had a better development rider in Zarco - who has IMHO a greater potential to earn points towards the manufacturer championship.

If in fact the magic number is the goal that so many imagine it is, I don't think MM would throw away all he's built at Honda to keep his little brother at his side.

I really think Honda is being being short-sighted.
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No reason to think he'll do anything to help any competitor. Not even his brother.

My guess is he'd stay at HRC until he's got 10 (if that really is the "magic number") and by then, he may be so banged up that his value won't be the same. A lot can change in a few years. In the meantime HRC could have had a better development rider in Zarco - who has IMHO a greater potential to earn points towards the manufacturer championship.

If in fact the magic number is the goal that so many imagine it is, I don't think MM would throw away all he's built at Honda to keep his little brother at his side.

I really think Honda is being being short-sighted.
I don't doubt there are better riders/riders with more potential than AM, and agree Zarco is likely one if them, but as I have said I think retaining MM is the absolute priority for Honda even at the cost of not winning the manufacturers' title. MM is on the point of breaking Rossi's records as a Honda rider, something hardly inconsequential for Honda particularly I would have thought because he will be supplanting Rossi, and could be their icon when he retires to trump Yamaha and Rossi. Making decisions on the basis of possible future injuries to MM which might cost them MM anyway would hardly seem the soundest of policies given he is currently in his prime and pretty much invincible, and probably capable of riding bikes other than HRC's to world titles.

In fact, it is precisely because AM has been chosen ahead of riders who are very likely better than him that I think pleasing MM was Honda's motive. How it will work out is a different matter, but if I were Honda I would be doing my utmost to please MM as well, and AM has qualified by winning the moto 2 title, and it seems to be pretty much a policy from Dorna/uncle Carmelo that the moto 2 champion should get a premier class ride, to justify that class I guess, not that I agree with said policy.
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Not according the the commentary guys at the race. They said it's still just a rumor. Nothing confirmed. This "news piece" is I suspect just typical irresponsible click-bait like we see every year at this time.
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The BT Sport commentators seemed convinced Alex is going to Repsol Honda and that they've heard this from 'high up' people.
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If Alex goes to Repsol I wonder how long he'll be satisfied with playing second fiddle riding around collecting team points.
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