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View Poll Results: Who gets Lorenzo's ride?
Zarco 19 76.00%
Crutchlow 1 4.00%
Alex Marquez 5 20.00%
other 0 0%
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November 15th, 2019, 04:48 PM   #21
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Exactly what?
Are you trying to tell us MotoGP bike is like a spaceship which uses fuel for slowing down? I've got news for you.
1. Displacement of MotoGP engine cannot be changed, it is set by rules.
2. Internal combustion engine does not use fuel for engine braking.
Tho you did not use the quote feature, it does appear you are referencing my post.

Who said anything about "displacement"??? Not me.

Who said anything about using fuel for engine braking??? Again . . . Not me.

Why you feel compelled to introduce these straw man arguments is a mystery.

As has been referenced by Baz, engine braking is largely calibrated electronically, as are, power delivery and numerous other engine characteristics. Cam and flywheel profiles also have huge affects on power delivery. This is why there's been so much controversy over phenomenal amounts of money being funneled into electronics research and ensuing single supplier/unified electronics rule.

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November 15th, 2019, 06:44 PM   #22
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I would say HRC can get anyone they want tbh. Contracts generally have a buy out clause in them and itís not like HRC canít afford to buy out a contract. Zarco is probably the leading man right now but his ok results on the easier to ride 2018 bike do not mean he will do well on the 2019 bike as Iím sure HRC are aware.
What does the 2019 bike have to do with anything? He would move from the 2018 to the 2020 on the factory team.
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No disrespect to Alex but realistically he won the title because everyone that had beaten him previously had moved up to MotoGP.
I personally think he is unlikely to be any better than Jack Miller, as he wasn't when they were racing each other in moto 3, but this would still likely be (EDIT much) better than Jorge was this season or Dani was last season. I take the point the HRC bike might not suit Alex's riding style though.

Keeping his brother happy which will likely involve more than money in the future is likely to be pretty much HRC's major priority though, since it virtually guarantees them the riders' title, and likely will do so for several more years, and if it is true as rumour has it that he is pushing his brother's candidature then this is very likely not an insignificant factor.

It might actually be difficult for AM to be on the same team as his brother, but I doubt that would be their mindset and I am also unsure of AM's prospects elsewhere short or long term.

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What does the 2019 bike have to do with anything? He would move from the 2018 to the 2020 on the factory team.
Marquez has said that the 2020 bike has the same issues as the 2019 bike.
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November 16th, 2019, 07:09 AM   #25
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Marquez has said that the 2020 bike has the same issues as the 2019 bike.
It is still a work in progress. They have until the start of the season to make more changes.
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November 16th, 2019, 08:45 AM   #26
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HEY Dicks the subject of the topic is who gets the ride and not who is the most knowledgeable twat of the forum

I would say 1 year contract for Cructhlow at HRC (reward type and at the same time they wont scare a future top prospect that crutchlow retains the seat, they have to factor in the 2021 market)

Alex at LCR 1 year to make Marc happy

There is no downside for honda with the above, keeping marc happy, pre retirement crutchlow last year reward, option bid on Alex

And completely free to market anyone for 2 seats in 2021 (1 at HRC and 1 at LCR)

I think ducati will be willing to offer marc around 40mm but he wont move
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HEY Dicks the subject of the topic is who gets the ride and not who is the most knowledgeable twat of the forum

I would say 1 year contract for Cructhlow at HRC (reward type and at the same time they wont scare a future top prospect that crutchlow retains the seat, they have to factor in the 2021 market)

Alex at LCR 1 year to make Marc happy

There is no downside for honda with the above, keeping marc happy, pre retirement crutchlow last year reward, option bid on Alex

And completely free to market anyone for 2 seats in 2021 (1 at HRC and 1 at LCR)

I think ducati will be willing to offer marc around 40mm but he wont move
Oh whatever would we do without a forum guru like yourself to school us on what to talk about? Maybe you could find time in your busy schedule to teach us the finer points on the social graces too.
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Based on the more recent news it would seem that we may well see the Marquez brothers riding for the same team!! I somehow have a bad feeling about that.

Zarco's problem is his temperament and how he deals with adversity. I think any team signing him will have to take this into consideration. They also have to weigh what he will bring to the team against what a young, promising rider could.

Crutchlow seems to get along massively with his current crew. I don't see him moving to the works team when he already rides current spec machinery.
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November 16th, 2019, 10:12 AM   #29
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everything I have read today suggests that Alex will get the Repsol ride, and Ducati are now interested in Zarco.

Would a back marker Ducati ride be better then a Moto2 (MarcVDS) ride for Zarco?
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Zarco said he would prefer to go to Marc VDS than take the Ducati.
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