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November 3rd, 2019, 10:45 AM   #51
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The size of the stands for respective riders, while relevant to the sales of tickets for seats, has no bearing on the volume of machines sold.

The fact is that until a south east Asian prospect turns up and starts winning, Rossi will leave a void from a marketing perspective in that region. And Yamaha with its dwindling sales figures globally has leaned heavily on the region as have the other manufacturers.

Racing is primarily a marketing exercise. All other considerations are secondary.
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Rossi showed again that he still has it when his bike works. Chocking the yama is so slow on the straights. Lorenzo.......... Zarco should get that ride.
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The size of the stands for respective riders, while relevant to the sales of tickets for seats, has no bearing on the volume of machines sold.

The fact is that until a south east Asian prospect turns up and starts winning, Rossi will leave a void from a marketing perspective in that region. And Yamaha with its dwindling sales figures globally has leaned heavily on the region as have the other manufacturers.

Racing is primarily a marketing exercise. All other considerations are secondary.
Until I see publication stating his effect on motorcycle sales, I'm calling that pipe dream. After all this was announced a few years back. https://global.yamaha-motor.com/news...aboration.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN12503X

Don't know if this collaboration has started to bare fruit yet.
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Until I see publication stating his effect on motorcycle sales, I'm calling that pipe dream. After all this was announced a few years back. https://global.yamaha-motor.com/news...aboration.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN12503X

Don't know if this collaboration has started to bare fruit yet.
Both links pertain to a collaboration within the JDM which has seen declining figures year on year. This market is also no longer the focus for growth. Indonesia, Malaysia and the neighbouring countries in the region are.

Lin Jarvis had this to say a few years ago to MCN: "I went to an event in Indonesia with Valentino and Jorge and I’ve never seen anything like it. There were 3500 Yamaha dealers present and it was phenomenal and this year Yamaha Indonesia is planning to sell 2.8m units. Then you have Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam and the Philippines, so clearly South East Asia is key"

“I met a guy in the hotel and he is kind of a semi-fan of MotoGP and he follows a little bit. He was asking what was going on and he asked me about who was riding for us and when I mentioned Jorge and Valentino he said’ oh, Valentino Rossi, he is legendary and amazing’.

If you think Rossi has had no effect on the sales of motorcycles during his career, I would say you are wilfully ignorant. But to each their own I suppose...
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Both links pertain to a collaboration within the JDM which has seen declining figures year on year. This market is also no longer the focus for growth. Indonesia, Malaysia and the neighbouring countries in the region are.

Lin Jarvis had this to say a few years ago to MCN: "I went to an event in Indonesia with Valentino and Jorge and I’ve never seen anything like it. There were 3500 Yamaha dealers present and it was phenomenal and this year Yamaha Indonesia is planning to sell 2.8m units. Then you have Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam and the Philippines, so clearly South East Asia is key"

“I met a guy in the hotel and he is kind of a semi-fan of MotoGP and he follows a little bit. He was asking what was going on and he asked me about who was riding for us and when I mentioned Jorge and Valentino he said’ oh, Valentino Rossi, he is legendary and amazing’.

If you think Rossi has had no effect on the sales of motorcycles during his career, I would say you are wilfully ignorant. But to each their own I suppose...
Sure, no doubt at all Valentino is important both for ratings for Dorna and for Yamaha’s profile particularly in these emerging economies where their market is now. Mick D who lives in Thailand has testified to this. Whether it will continue for generations who didn’t experience his pomp is another question.

I have no problem with how he is comporting himself currently anyway, and don’t believe Yamaha are currently doing anything detrimental to their other riders in favour of Rossi.
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And you are thai shemales' fucker

How would you know about the thai counting of fans ? You were there, to fuck little boys at worst case scenario, shemales medium case scenario, cheap hookers best case scenario

Do you even read yourself ? Puppet master etc...year right duuuude, lets raid Area 51, Bush is a reptilian and Queen Elizabeth the reincarnation of great king solomon

Yeah right.

Anyway, yes Rossi is fading but he is still deserves the right to enjoy another year of cruising around, just like lorenzo did this year.

Because they gave their lives for the sports and still we, as fans, benefited from it, one way or another

So just enjoy and shut the fuck up

If you have testosterone blast that makes you want to fight on something why dont you go help the firemen in california or something like this

Anyway you a lost cause fuck face
And yet it is others who are apparently over invested emotionally in a MotoGP rider.
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November 3rd, 2019, 02:17 PM   #57
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This forum alone is proof that Rossi (regardless of how he performs) is the most relevant rider on the grid. Forum threads should be dominated by Marquez or Quartararo, yet every single thread always ends up about Rossi. At this point, Rossi is MotoGP and Yamaha has no incentive to get rid of him.
I am an MM fan, but not nearly to the extent that I was a Stoner fan or Doohan fan, both of whom I was not unhappy to see have totally dominant seasons. With MM I would like to see him challenged, and Viñales and Quartararo at least look to have the raw pace to be competitive with him on their day. My point was that they should have backed him all along as they appear to be backing him now, I don’t particularly care about what Yamaha want to do with Valentino.
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Rossi who famously did not seriously start to train until way into his 30s got away with many crashes and no bad injuries until the broken leg. Dovizioso has been racing as long as Rossi and had yet to suffer a really bad injury. Marquez conversely suffered a head injury in his Moto 2 days that nearly cost him his eyesight, and repeatedly damaged his shoulder in a relatively short period of time, which safely negates any theories of a superhuman capacity to avoid injury.
Rossi also hardly crashed during all those years when he suffered no significant injuries. MM crashes frequently. I fully agree he can’t continue to walk away from massive high sides like the one this week-end particularly as he ages, and the shoulder problems are likely a harbinger of that, but in general he has been fairly durable. As for the Willairot thing, sure pure luck he didn’t kill both of them, and no amount of physical training, durability or ability as a faller, limp or otherwise, as the case may be will help if you are going to ride straight into other riders with a high speed differential.
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^^^ You’re post obviously sucks.
If you knew anything you would also know that if Dorna has pressured Yamaha or others into favouring Rossi for Dorna’s own reasonings, it wouldn’t be the first time.

But man I hate to when people say shit like ‘..... gave their life to the sport.’ As if it wasn’t an act of selfishness that lead them to do so. Athletes don’t sacrifice their body, time etc for the sport. They do it for themselves, for their own egos, wants and ambitions. Athletes and it doesn’t matter which one you want to pick out are selfish. Everything gets pushed to the side for their ambitions. It doesn’t mean they’re always selfish but their pursuit is selfish by nature and to succeed sacrifices have to made and those sacrifices are never only at their own expense.
No idea what you're on about. When did I ever say that Dorna didn't pressure Yamaha etc. Are you sure you didn't reply to the wrong post dude???
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