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August 19th, 2019, 11:55 PM   #1
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90 premier class wins

Is it possible for Marquez?
Heís only 26 years old, but 40 more wins seems like a lot.
If he can take 5 more this season then it gets a bit easier. He will be 27 next season, thereís no reason why another 10 wins isnít possible considering his strongest competition will be another year older and on the wrong side of 30.

Thereís no large machinery advantages or tyre advantages so can it be done in such an even field while a rider is approaching 30?
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What's he up to? 70- something? Hailwood had 76 I think. Must be close. Yes if he is in the 70's I firmly believe he'll make another 20 wins. Shit, he may be the first modern racer to crack a hundred. What did ago end up with?
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What's he up to? 70- something? Hailwood had 76 I think. Must be close. Yes if he is in the 70's I firmly believe he'll make another 20 wins. Shit, he may be the first modern racer to crack a hundred. What did ago end up with?
50 premier class wins for Marquez. 76 all up. Another 40 wins puts him at 116 below Agoís 122.
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I think he could do it. So dominant and special he is, especially over a seasons campaign.
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Agree, he definitely has what it takes. Unless another unbeatable freak of nature arrives on the scene to stop him I don’t see why he can’t keep on winning. His form this season almost feels like he is getting stronger, shit he may not have even reached his peak just yet.

He is definitely the right candidate.
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Right now, despite his bike being difficult to extract the performance out of it, he is very difficult to beat. Not only on pace, but to get past him and to stay in front because he has tremendous fighting spirit. It's difficult to challenge him race after race and inevitably, he will continue to win races at a good clip.

He's like Stoner. Once the performance is in the bike, he'll extract it where other riders can't. If the bike is easy to ride, then he'll be ahead of the others anyway, or at a minimum, making it very difficult for them to stay in front.
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Who knows.

It only takes one special talent and Marc might have to start sharing the wins.

Might even be Running on a Satellite Yamaha right now.
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Indeed. If one lives long enough one will see once unassailable records fall by the wayside in every human endeavor. As good as MM is, history says somebody else is bound to come along, some day.
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Ago’s records are not the benchmark to me. He raced in an era when he had such bike advantages it didn’t take greatness to win. Twin cylinder factory bikes against single cylinder privateers in a lot of years skewed his numbers. What Doohan did was more impressive, then Rossi was more impressive than Doohan, and now what Marquez s doing is even more impressive because of the equality of the machinery. Rossi and Doohan got the majority of their wins when there was a huge talent dip either early or late stages of their careers. Marc has got all his wins against two of the best that have ever been and they are now fading as will Dovi, who can take wins on the best bike at Ducati tracks but can’t beat Marc for 19-20 race season. His window closed after 17 when he had by far the best bike and couldn’t get it done. The last couple of years, he has had a slightly better bike but is getting trounced. If there is a talent gap the next 5 years like Doohan and Rossi enjoyed, I see no reason why Marc can’t win 40 maybe 50 races in that time frame. The next wave of contenders such as Vinales, , Rins, Morbidelli, Bagnaia, etc all seem to be just a notch below and need favorable conditions to win races, much less championships. Quatararo could be the one to take it to Marc for an entire season but really hasn’t proven anything except that he has speed. How will he react to the pressures of “ HAVING “ to win or podium every race to contend with Marquez. He puts you under so much pressure to be damn near perfect that most just can’t handle . That’s when they start blaming their bike, the team, their personal trainer, their dog or whatever. That’s when you know they have broke. We will see, but I don’t see the guy out there at the moment in any class that’s going to be “ the “ one.
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Agoís records are not the benchmark to me. He raced in an era when he had such bike advantages it didnít take greatness to win. Twin cylinder factory bikes against single cylinder privateers in a lot of years skewed his numbers. What Doohan did was more impressive, then Rossi was more impressive than Doohan, and now what Marquez s doing is even more impressive because of the equality of the machinery. Rossi and Doohan got the majority of their wins when there was a huge talent dip either early or late stages of their careers. Marc has got all his wins against two of the best that have ever been and they are now fading as will Dovi, who can take wins on the best bike at Ducati tracks but canít beat Marc for 19-20 race season. His window closed after 17 when he had by far the best bike and couldnít get it done. The last couple of years, he has had a slightly better bike but is getting trounced. If there is a talent gap the next 5 years like Doohan and Rossi enjoyed, I see no reason why Marc canít win 40 maybe 50 races in that time frame. The next wave of contenders such as Vinales, , Rins, Morbidelli, Bagnaia, etc all seem to be just a notch below and need favorable conditions to win races, much less championships. Quatararo could be the one to take it to Marc for an entire season but really hasnít proven anything except that he has speed. How will he react to the pressures of ď HAVING ď to win or podium every race to contend with Marquez. He puts you under so much pressure to be damn near perfect that most just canít handle . Thatís when they start blaming their bike, the team, their personal trainer, their dog or whatever. Thatís when you know they have broke. We will see, but I donít see the guy out there at the moment in any class thatís going to be ď the ď one.
Exactly, given how the rules are trying to stop the manufacturers from having major advantages over one another only makes Marcs domination that more impressive. Dovi has more points at this stage in the season right now than he did in 2017 when things got decided at the Valencia.

Marc is making things boring because he is so much better than the rest and nobody can take the fight to him. Dovi is doing an awesome job at trying but Marc is doing a super human one.

Didn't Ago get all his wins racing in multiple classes at the same time? Im pretty confident Marc could jump on the Moto2 bike and smoke everyone, every round as exercise for the main race but rules don't allow it.
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