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August 12th, 2019, 10:35 PM   #51
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"Talent" is a term created by lazy and coward people to use as an excuse to not believe in themselves, so explaining their lack of success.
Have you ever competed? Have you ever competed with someone considered to be among the greatest at their sport? I have. Talent is real.

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Have you ever competed? Have you ever competed with someone considered to be among the greatest at their sport? I have. Talent is real.
It's the death defying sport of clinging to an absurd and indefensible notion with no regard for the likely outcome, ie becoming the object of communal scorn rather than admit to a faulty and illogical premise. His predecessors being Pinky, Shinya and Knockdown, he is vying for a place in the pantheon. For myself, I don't think he has the talent to make it to the podium, but if he practices enough...

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There is a whole movement in the western world, they denounce Freud and even Darwin. They think everyone is equal. These people are seriously confused. People may have equal rights in modern society, this doesn't make them equal. Yet, these confused people think of themselves as "progressive".
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There is a whole movement in the western world, they denounce Freud and even Darwin. They think everyone is equal. These people are seriously confused. People may have equal rights in modern society, this doesn't make them equal. Yet, these confused people think of themselves as "progressive".
Yup. The ranks of the Holocaust deniers, anti-vaxers, flat earthers, and people who think the moon landing was faked seems to be growing every day.
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I always (obviously being a Stoner fan) liked Shuehi Nakamoto’s assessment early in MM’s career, that MM had faster reflexes but Casey was a genius on a bike. Doubtless he would call MM a genius on a bike now as well. Of course you need hard work in addition, but you aren’t going to get there without fast reflexes and probably some innate genius as well. Hard to speed up your synapses if they are not particularly fast, or to gain innate genius by pure determination. Most people don’t have the innate talent including physiology the really top guys have, and while you can make the most of what you have I don’t believe you can develop what you don’t have in the first place, particularly elite reflexes and hand-eye co-ordination.
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Yup. The ranks of the Holocaust deniers, anti-vaxers, flat earthers, and people who think the moon landing was faked seems to be growing every day.
I believe racism has also now been revealed to be an invention by the politically correct.
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Talent is real. It’s crazy that people think it isn’t. It comes in different forms in different sports. It doesn’t matter how hard you work to be elite in any sport you need to have a degree of talent.

Jesus there’s guys like Ablett Snr who some of the Aussie members on her might remember who could just do things that nobody else could, because they just can. I remember when I was boxing as an 18 year old (I was fighting professionally by then)I got asked how I did or knew when to throw this short little left hand (I’m left handed) that seemed to never miss and always hurt guys when it landed. I didn’t know how to answer, I just did it, I knew when to do it without thinking. I could explain what I did when I really thought about it and ran how I did it through my mind but to me it was just something I did. I didn’t work on it, nobody taught me how to do it but it was arguably my most effective move. That was talent, obviously I didn’t have elite level talent but I was still pretty handy despite being lazy too much of the time.

Hard work beats talent but when talent works hard the grinder type of guy in any sport always gets found out.
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Talent is real. It’s crazy that people think it isn’t. It comes in different forms in different sports. It doesn’t matter how hard you work to be elite in any sport you need to have a degree of talent.

Jesus there’s guys like AABBBLLLEETTTT! Snr who some of the Aussie members on her might remember who could just do things that nobody else could, because they just can. I remember when I was boxing as an 18 year old (I was fighting professionally by then)I got asked how I did or knew when to throw this short little left hand (I’m left handed) that seemed to never miss and always hurt guys when it landed. I didn’t know how to answer, I just did it, I knew when to do it without thinking. I could explain what I did when I really thought about it and ran how I did it through my mind but to me it was just something I did. I didn’t work on it, nobody taught me how to do it but it was arguably my most effective move. That was talent, obviously I didn’t have elite level talent but I was still pretty handy despite being lazy too much of the time.

Hard work beats talent but when talent works hard the grinder type of guy in any sport always gets found out.
Ablett : definition. GOD.


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There is a whole movement in the western world, they denounce Freud and even Darwin. They think everyone is equal. These people are seriously confused. People may have equal rights in modern society, this doesn't make them equal. Yet, these confused people think of themselves as "progressive".
Ever read Vonnegut's "Welcome To The Monkey House"? When new folks introduce themselves on the forum I most always use that phrase to greet them.

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Ablett : definition. GOD.


I'm a Carlton man. Always preferred kernahan and diesel Williams.
I only caught and remember the tail end of Abletts career and am not a Geelong supporter but the guy is the definition of natural, god given otherworldly talent.

My wife’s ex step father knew a couple of guys who were at Hawthorn back when Ablett had his short stint there and they said that from the moment he turned up he could do things nobody else on their team could. Leigh Matthews actually used to get to the ground early to watch him when he was as playing in the reserves. It must have been amazing to watch him when he was at his best during the 80s.
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