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August 12th, 2019, 01:06 PM   #41
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Yes, coward. Speed is just a question of getting used to. They are all human beings, not gods. I don't like this idea of calling some MotoGP riders as "aliens", this is ridiculous to say at least. They are not any special, and talent it's just a word that describes something that does not exists. I don't believe in bullshit "natural talent", I believe in training and in brains capable of extract and process more information from that specific kind of training than others, just that. There is no such thing like "talent to ride a bike", there is indeed brains more or less capable to process activities that involve tasks ALSO used when riding a bike. All the rest is the environment providing ways, i.e., training, training, training... and yes, the guy has to have a life that provides him time and resources to train a lot.

There is no guarantee that the riders in MotoGP are the "most special" (and indeed they are not) since very few people have the opportunity to have their kind of life. There is a very, very highly probability that there could be a lot of riders much better than the average MotoGP rider over there if more people had the chance to follow their path at bike racing. There could be much more Marquezes, Rossis and Stoners, et al.
Shit, If he's is a coward then what does that make you?
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Yes, coward. Speed is just a question of getting used to. They are all human beings, not gods. I don't like this idea of calling some MotoGP riders as "aliens", this is ridiculous to say at least. They are not any special, and talent it's just a word that describes something that does not exists. I don't believe in bullshit "natural talent", I believe in training and in brains capable of extract and process more information from that specific kind of training than others, just that. There is no such thing like "talent to ride a bike", there is indeed brains more or less capable to process activities that involve tasks ALSO used when riding a bike. All the rest is the environment providing ways, i.e., training, training, training... and yes, the guy has to have a life that provides him time and resources to train a lot.

There is no guarantee that the riders in MotoGP are the "most special" (and indeed they are not) since very few people have the opportunity to have their kind of life. There is a very, very highly probability that there could be a lot of riders much better than the average MotoGP rider over there if more people had the chance to follow their path at bike racing. There could be much more Marquezes, Rossis and Stoners, et al.

Sour grapes.
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Yes, coward. Speed is just a question of getting used to. They are all human beings, not gods. I don't like this idea of calling some MotoGP riders as "aliens", this is ridiculous to say at least. They are not any special, and talent it's just a word that describes something that does not exists. I don't believe in bullshit "natural talent", I believe in training and in brains capable of extract and process more information from that specific kind of training than others, just that. There is no such thing like "talent to ride a bike", there is indeed brains more or less capable to process activities that involve tasks ALSO used when riding a bike. All the rest is the environment providing ways, i.e., training, training, training... and yes, the guy has to have a life that provides him time and resources to train a lot.

There is no guarantee that the riders in MotoGP are the "most special" (and indeed they are not) since very few people have the opportunity to have their kind of life. There is a very, very highly probability that there could be a lot of riders much better than the average MotoGP rider over there if more people had the chance to follow their path at bike racing. There could be much more Marquezes, Rossis and Stoners, et al.
Dude on his couch calls dude who is one of the fastest guys in the world a coward. Lol.
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Dude on his couch calls dude who is one of the fastest guys in the world a coward. Lol.
Not just any couch, thats a factory ArmchairGP ride he's on.
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Yes, coward. Speed is just a question of getting used to. They are all human beings, not gods. I don't like this idea of calling some MotoGP riders as "aliens", this is ridiculous to say at least. They are not any special, and talent it's just a word that describes something that does not exists. I don't believe in bullshit "natural talent", I believe in training and in brains capable of extract and process more information from that specific kind of training than others, just that. There is no such thing like "talent to ride a bike", there is indeed brains more or less capable to process activities that involve tasks ALSO used when riding a bike. All the rest is the environment providing ways, i.e., training, training, training... and yes, the guy has to have a life that provides him time and resources to train a lot.

There is no guarantee that the riders in MotoGP are the "most special" (and indeed they are not) since very few people have the opportunity to have their kind of life. There is a very, very highly probability that there could be a lot of riders much better than the average MotoGP rider over there if more people had the chance to follow their path at bike racing. There could be much more Marquezes, Rossis and Stoners, et al.
Riiight . . . just matter of a little adustment. Have YOU ever been on a bike at anywhere near those kind of speeds? I raced AMA-CCS and WERA races for a bunch of years and rode all kinds of bikes including TZ 250s and liter bikes and trust me you never get blase about moving through the air at speeds over 150 Mph, never mind drafting riders and/or out-braking them at the end of a straight. You get better at it - but it never becomes a walk-in-the-park proposition. What you choose to "believe" is in this instance, bares no relationship to real world experience.

If you don't believe in natural talent, how do you explain Mozart composing his first symphony at age 5? Or Enrico Fermi who was building electrical motors at age 10 that surpassed those designed by men in their 50s with multiple degrees in engineering and physics? Or Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz who taught herself Latin, Greek and Nahuat (spoken language of the Aztecs) at age 8. Or Blaise Pascal who by age 12 invented his own terminology and independently discovered nearly all the geometric proofs of Euclid and at age 15 was was viewed by Rene Descartes as a respected contemporary.
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You say as if the motogp riders keep at over 300 km/h during the whole lap. It's just a couple of seconds, and not even at every circuit, and always at a straight line, hidden behind an acrylic bubble. Not that is basic math, it causes panic and strong sensations at first, and it takes some balls to speed up to 300 km/h, but getting used to it it's just a matter of training, I'd bet anyone here could handle it with sufficient time.

I have already explained my point, I will not repeat myself if some of you can't read a text not being a moron.

By the way, all motogp riders are videogame kids, little chickens, compared to isle of man TT racers. That kind of activity does indeed requires balls of steel.

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Riiight . . . just matter of a little adustment. Have YOU ever been on a bike at anywhere near those kind of speeds? I raced AMA-CCS and WERA races for a bunch of years and rode all kinds of bikes including TZ 250s and liter bikes and trust me you never get blase about moving through the air at speeds over 150 Mph, never mind drafting riders and/or out-braking them at the end of a straight. You get better at it - but it never becomes a walk-in-the-park proposition. What you choose to "believe" is in this instance, bares no relationship to real world experience.

If you don't believe in natural talent, how do you explain Mozart composing his first symphony at age 5? Or Enrico Fermi who was building electrical motors at age 10 that surpassed those designed by men in their 50s with multiple degrees in engineering and physics? Or Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz who taught herself Latin, Greek and Nahuat (spoken language of the Aztecs) at age 8. Or Blaise Pascal who by age 12 invented his own terminology and independently discovered nearly all the geometric proofs of Euclid and at age 15 was was viewed by Rene Descartes as a respected contemporary.
If Mozart hadn't the piano, what would he be? Probably an artist, painter, or whatever the task a right-side brain genius would become.

"Talent" is a term created by lazy and coward people to use as an excuse to not believe in themselves, so explaining their lack of success.

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Yes, coward. Speed is just a question of getting used to. They are all human beings, not gods. I don't like this idea of calling some MotoGP riders as "aliens", this is ridiculous to say at least. They are not any special, and talent it's just a word that describes something that does not exists. I don't believe in bullshit "natural talent", I believe in training and in brains capable of extract and process more information from that specific kind of training than others, just that. There is no such thing like "talent to ride a bike", there is indeed brains more or less capable to process activities that involve tasks ALSO used when riding a bike. All the rest is the environment providing ways, i.e., training, training, training... and yes, the guy has to have a life that provides him time and resources to train a lot.

There is no guarantee that the riders in MotoGP are the "most special" (and indeed they are not) since very few people have the opportunity to have their kind of life. There is a very, very highly probability that there could be a lot of riders much better than the average MotoGP rider over there if more people had the chance to follow their path at bike racing. There could be much more Marquezes, Rossis and Stoners, et al.
Yes coward. Then you go one a wordy rant about talent that has fuck all to do with cowardice.

While it is certainly probable that their are human beings out there who have a talent for an endeavour they have never been fortunate enough to try; It is just as certain that we humans DO have specific abilities which and us more suited, or naturally talented, to some activities more than others.

No matter how hard Pedro trained he was never gonna play basketball...
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You say as if the motogp riders keep at over 300 km/h during the whole lap. It's just a couple of seconds, and not even at every circuit, and always at a straight line, hidden behind an acrylic bubble. Not that is basic math, it causes panic and strong sensations at first, and it takes some balls to speed up to 300 km/h, but getting used to it it's just a matter of training, I'd bet anyone here could handle it with sufficient time.

I have already explained my point, I will not repeat myself if some of you can't read a text not being a moron.

By the way, all motogp riders are videogame kids, little chickens, compared to isle of man TT racers. That kind of activity does indeed requires balls of steel.
Agree, total cowards, even the TT guys. None of them have the 'balls of steel' and 'true grit' required like yourself, to go to and online forum and give the world such a bold insight into just how embarrassingly simple they are.
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You say as if the motogp riders keep at over 300 km/h during the whole lap. It's just a couple of seconds, and not even at every circuit, and always at a straight line, hidden behind an acrylic bubble. Not that is basic math, it causes panic and strong sensations at first, and it takes some balls to speed up to 300 km/h, but getting used to it it's just a matter of training, I'd bet anyone here could handle it with sufficient time.

I have already explained my point, I will not repeat myself if some of you can't read a text not being a moron.

By the way, all motogp riders are videogame kids, little chickens, compared to isle of man TT racers. That kind of activity does indeed requires balls of steel.
And yet here you are posting on a Motogp forum. To be perfectly honest I think your perspective on this disrespects all the motorcycle racers who have given their lives or limbs in pursuit of keeping you entertained. If you think the sport is so tame why even watch it?
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