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Segfault May 8th, 2019 07:28 AM

Lorenzo
 
I wonder what is really going on there. Did Honda really contract Lorenzo only to get rid of potential Ducati title winner? In Jerez he should have been on podium at least, and he was nowhere.

MigsAngel May 8th, 2019 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Segfault (Post 460700)
I wonder what is really going on there. Did Honda really contract Lorenzo only to get rid of potential Ducati title winner? In Jerez he should have been on podium at least, and he was nowhere.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/91...ointed-worried

He's struggling and he knows its up to him to sort it out...

He somehow conviced HRC to take him on, but he probably thought he coudl beat MM on the same bike....it is clear he cant and wont....

MM in my view will stay with HRC until he wins more titles than Rossi, and by then JLow will have retired...

MagicMarc93 May 8th, 2019 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Segfault (Post 460700)
I wonder what is really going on there. Did Honda really contract Lorenzo only to get rid of potential Ducati title winner? In Jerez he should have been on podium at least, and he was nowhere.

Simple - The Honda is not very well developed at all. Only Marc's almost other worldly talents can do anything with it.

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Keshav May 8th, 2019 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Segfault (Post 460700)
I wonder what is really going on there. Did Honda really contract Lorenzo only to get rid of potential Ducati title winner? In Jerez he should have been on podium at least, and he was nowhere.

I don't think Honda would be that narrowly focused on his worth to the team. I believe they thought he was the best qualified rider to fill the spot. He's mature and not likely to start any inter-team rivalry nonsense. He's realistic enough to know he's not going to be challenging Marquez for the championship. And, it's pretty clear that he quietly went about his business of making the Ducati more rider friendly - something HRC really need, because they can't afford to put all their eggs in one basket. If he can work with HRC to make the bike easier to ride for future riders, that will make him a very valuable asset. I know it's a case of 20/20 hindsight, but I've said it before; Dovi could have done for Honda what he's done with Ducati. They were very short-sighted when they let him go.

Hollywood May 8th, 2019 09:13 AM

it had to be a money move for him, JLo's rinding style did not fit the Ducati and it certainly does not fit the Honda. he probably would have had better luck on the Suzuki.

misfit May 8th, 2019 11:04 AM

Hi guys, I don't see why we should not take Lorenzo's feedback as authentic. He describes difficulty riding the Honda because it requires a lot of upper body strength to get the most out of it. Upper body strength that he has lost a lot of because of his injuries and which he is having trouble getting on top of because of his current difficulties with strength training. I wish him all the best and would love to see him spectacularly improve, yet again.

evo9 May 8th, 2019 11:16 AM

For those who believes HRC hired him to make him slow

https://www.marca.com/motor/motogp/2...73a8b4610.html

Hollywood May 8th, 2019 11:52 AM

https://i.ibb.co/4WDGGHg/30h88x.jpg

Holypuck May 8th, 2019 11:56 AM

Honda is (as it should) a machine made for Marquez.

Marc's riding is very violent on the front wheel, and he uses the back wheel almost as an extension of his body. Indeed all his crashes come from losing the front, he enters the corner in a more extreme way than any other rider and builds his corner speed by rough acceleration from the mid to the exiting part of the turn. Independently of his speed, that is a rather unique riding style.

For a rider like Lorenzo, who brakes from a very "vertical" body/wheels position and then comes very straight into the corner and builds his corner speed by turning and accelerating smoothly it's very hard to ride with a frame and setup that was created for the exact opposing style.

I am fully convinced Lorenzo will become competitive on the HRC, as he did with the Ducati, but it will take time.

This being said:

1) He sure is underperforming right now, even given the current situation.

2) HRC sure hired him ALSO as it took away a potentially very, very fast rival.

Hollywood May 8th, 2019 12:38 PM

Ducati went out of their way to build a bike for Lorenzo, different frames, tanks, seats, etc.
I do not see Honda doing that for Lorenzo, they know they have a championship winning bike, and they will not try to fix something that is not broken.


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