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March 23rd, 2019, 05:02 AM   #1
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Race 2 Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina

Next weekend.

Will Dovi continue to retain his race results and points? (Yes)

Will Dovi maintain his energy and focus and not begin his descent into mid-season blahs? Let's hope so.

Will Marquez adjust his riding style to effect fewer crashes and let that shoulder completely heal? Look for the race announcers to ask that question at least 4 times per race.

Will Quatararro blow minds? Fingers crossed.

Will Zarco be seen walking around the paddock muttering and kicking himself? Oh yeah.

Will Vinales look great in practice and then disappoint? You can take it to the bank gents.

Will Rins learn to save his tires and parley his talent into a podium? Yes please!

Will it be revealed that the race announcers who constantly gush every time Rossi is on camera are in fact getting a piece of his merchandising bonanza? Mmmm could be.
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I'd like to see them all do well (well baring the t-shirt salesman).
However I don't want another slow, slow, quick, quick, slow race the last one was not good for that.
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I'd like to see them all do well (well baring the t-shirt salesman).
However I don't want another slow, slow, quick, quick, slow race the last one was not good for that.
Pray for the return of Bridgestone.
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I'd like to see them all do well (well baring the t-shirt salesman). However I don't want another slow, slow, quick, quick, slow race the last one was not good for that.
Copied from another site:

"Looking at race time over past several years, michlin vs bridgestones, shows that the overall race time is quicker under michlins and the closness of the field is much tighter as well.

In other words there is no such thing as a performance trade off for show. Total rubbish. We are treated to best of both worlds.

2019 = 42'36.9" -> 15 bikes within 15 seconds from winner
2018 = 42' 34.7" -> 11 bikes within 15 sec from winner
2017 = 39'0" -> 10 bikes within 15 sec from winner (20 laps not 22)
2016 = 42'28.5" -> 6 bikes within 15 sec from winner

2015 = 42'35.7" -> 9 bikes within 15 seconds from winner
2014 = 42'40.6 -> 5 bikes within 15 seconds from winner
2013 = 42'39.8" -> 4 bikes within 15 sec from winner
2012 = 42'44.2" -> 3 bikes within 15 sec from winner

Aprilia and KTM finished this years race +9.6 sec and +12.8 sec behind the winner respectively, compared to +34.7 sec and +31.7 sec the year before.

Comparison overall race time Aprilia finished 26 sec quicker than last year, and KTM 17 sec quicker, an improvement of 1.8 sec for Aprilia and 0.8 sec for KTM if averaged across the 22 laps."
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I'd like to see them all do well (well baring the t-shirt salesman).
However I don't want another slow, slow, quick, quick, slow race the last one was not good for that.


Blame the French! It's never a bad idea
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Don't cry for me, Argentina. I be the Marc.

The Marc had quite the day, last year.

Let us not have a repeat of the amateur half-hour of officiating.


Jack was so cute. Like a good school boy.



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Well things just got interesting. Honda went to Danny Aldrige yesterday morning with a winglet/scoop design exactly the same as Ducati's and asked for it to be homologated for their bikes this weekend. When they said it was for aero purposes it was rejected.

So, Ducati run a wing and 'say' it's for cooling.

Honda want to run a wing of exactly the same design but are refused. Where the hell is the consistency in that? They both have the sam TWO functions, cooling and aero yet Ducati's is allowed because of a word play?
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Well things just got interesting. Honda went to Danny Aldrige yesterday morning with a winglet/scoop design exactly the same as Ducati's and asked for it to be homologated for their bikes this weekend. When they said it was for aero purposes it was rejected.

So, Ducati run a wing and 'say' it's for cooling.

Honda want to run a wing of exactly the same design but are refused. Where the hell is the consistency in that? They both have the sam TWO functions, cooling and aero yet Ducati's is allowed because of a word play?
How do you know it's the same design? You're a assuming.
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Here comes the Ducati defender again. Don't get so uptight.

I'm basing that that what the MotoGP technical director said:

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Motorsport.com understands that a Honda representative approached Aldridge with a similar design for the team's bike on Thursday ahead of this weekend's Argentinian GP but homologation was refused when Aldridge was told the purpose of the device.
Ok you can use semantics to disseminate between the words 'same' and 'similar' but the point is this:

Any wing, vane, deflector that is used to cool a rear tyre by passing air over said device, WILL ALSO PRODUCE DOWNFORCE. That is basic physics.

This issue here is Aprilia, and now Honda, have requested to run this deflector for aerodynamic purposes and were denied. Ducati, running the exact same deflector type device (in that the primary function is to deflect the flow of air), except they say it is for cooling the tyre, are allowed to run it. That is a hideous inconsistency in the interpretation of the rule.

Forced induction is outlawed in MotoGP, but for argument's sake lets say it wansn't. Turbocharging can increase power and fuel economy. So this is akin to Honda and Aprilia asking to run a turbocharger to increase power and being denied, but Ducati asking to run a turbocharger to increase fuel economy and it being allowed. A turbocharger increases power and increases fuel economy relative to displacement. A 'wing' can be used to deflect air but in doing so it will create downforce.
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