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January 1st, 2019, 08:47 AM   #1
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Whatever helps you sleep Dovi

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You had a championship bike from the first race and couldn’t handle the pressure of being the favorite. Only once the pressure of being a champion faded did you perform up to the bikes potential.
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Sounds like contract salary negotiation talk to me.
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He keeps talking about consistency but I think it’s much easier to be consistent when you’re not pushing for wins. This year it seemed to my uneducated eye that a few of the crashes were a result of expectation and pushing for the win. Rossi is mr consisntent but he pushed for two wins this year and crashed twice.
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I dunno. My take-away from this is:

“This year it was missing because we did not have things in place at the start of the year and we made some mistakes, which made us finish very far behind in the championship.

Seems pretty straight forward to me. They'd had such a strong finish the year before it's not hard to see that they could have been a bit overconfident and made mistakes.
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I dunno. My take-away from this is:

“This year it was missing because we did not have things in place at the start of the year and we made some mistakes, which made us finish very far behind in the championship.

Seems pretty straight forward to me. They'd had such a strong finish the year before it's not hard to see that they could have been a bit overconfident and made mistakes.
The mistakes were him crashing out of races on a bike that was running up front in podium contention, some his fault, some not. Had nothing to do with the bike. He choked under the pressure of being on the best bike.
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I agree with Povol. He crashed out of Le Mans 2 corners after taking the lead, and Spain can only be described as an unforced error.

I'll be open and say I'm not a Dovi fan. For too much in his career he has only passed people with a faster bike. I remember Qatar in 2010 I think it was when he sat behind Hayden for the entire race, then used the Honda power to overtake him coming out of the last corner. Even in 2017 he only ever scrapped with Marquez when he had a straightline advantage.

The 2 championship showdowns he has had he folded like a deck of cards. All MotoGP riders are heroes, but he isn't in the league of Marquez or Lorenzo.
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I agree with Povol. He crashed out of Le Mans 2 corners after taking the lead, and Spain can only be described as an unforced error.

I'll be open and say I'm not a Dovi fan. For too much in his career he has only passed people with a faster bike. I remember Qatar in 2010 I think it was when he sat behind Hayden for the entire race, then used the Honda power to overtake him coming out of the last corner. Even in 2017 he only ever scrapped with Marquez when he had a straightline advantage.

The 2 championship showdowns he has had he folded like a deck of cards. All MotoGP riders are heroes, but he isn't in the league of Marquez or Lorenzo.
No - not true re: straight line advantage. He may have ridden that way to get to the front in races where he didn't quail well, but that only makes sense; best way to save tires till later in the race. Watch the last few races of the last two seasons. There was plenty of repeated take and re-take between him and Marquez, especially at Motegi in the rain: that was nuts.

Personally - I don't think falling is the same as "choking". Errors happen.

As to the faster bike thing, I've yet to see Marquez dominate a race on an inferior bike.
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As to the faster bike thing, I've yet to see Marquez dominate a race on an inferior bike.
Oh, I am pretty sure you have seen him win on inferior equipment. Ya ain't too old to forget 2015, are you?

I am not sure why we are picking on Dovi. JLo made similar "excuses" for Ducati not doing better. He admits, however, that the Duc could be unbeatable because of it's performance advantages. Maybe Dovi needs a new tank, too.

Does anyone remember what year Andrea D. bought his own brakes at Honda? I can't remember the year, and the internet is getting useless to find anything over two years old, anymore.
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You mean the full factory Repsol Honda on which he crashed six times due to sheer recklessness. Yeah... I remember.

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Oh, I am pretty sure you have seen him win on inferior equipment. Ya ain't too old to forget 2015, are you?

More like 2017

I am not sure why we are picking on Dovi. JLo made similar "excuses" for Ducati not doing better. He admits, however, that the Duc could be unbeatable because of it's performance advantages. Maybe Dovi needs a new tank, too.

Does anyone remember what year Andrea D. bought his own brakes at Honda? I can't remember the year, and the internet is getting useless to find anything over two years old, anymore.


That was when he was at tech3, he bought the brakes
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