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November 21st, 2018, 12:44 AM   #31
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As an Italian but more importantly as a fan of young guns I am beyond stoked for how both Bagnaia and Morbidelli looked on their new bikes.

Times, in a test session, have a relatively low importance but still, theirs were rather good.

Today will tell us more
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As an Italian but more importantly as a fan of young guns I am beyond stoked for how both Bagnaia and Morbidelli looked on their new bikes.

Times, in a test session, have a relatively low importance but still, theirs were rather good.

Today will tell us more
Yes, I read an article the other day concerning the up and coming riders including riders much younger than the two you mention being more Italian than Spanish these days and attributing this significantly to Valentino, probably correctly so.

I guess Puig who was likely very important in regard to the Spanish talent of the last decade is otherwise occupied now as well.
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Yes, I read an article the other day concerning the up and coming riders including riders much younger than the two you mention being more Italian than Spanish these days and attributing this significantly to Valentino, probably correctly so.

I guess Puig who was likely very important in regard to the Spanish talent of the last decade is otherwise occupied now as well.

I have to admit that what he is doing with his academy is absolutely amazing. With Morbidelli and Bagnaia both clinching a Moto2 title we started seeing the results, but that's only the top of the iceberg.

Our federation has never done anything to help the youngsters (not even the most promising ones) and that's crazy considering how popular the sport is over here.

VR46 (referring to the company, not to Rossi) is acting like a federation but also handling their marketing perfectly.

VR46 Academy's riders get to train with Rossi daily, on the best tracks of the country, at dirt track, at the gym, they get english lessons, a diet program, they get taught how to behave in front of the media and how to handle themselves in their relationships with sponsors.

These services/supports do not come for free of course, but whatever's the cost they are worth it IMHO.

Rossi is building Italy's future in the sport and for this (ONLY for this tho ) I really, really am a fan of his.
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Agreed. Valentino is paying it forward.
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Agreed. Valentino is paying it forward.

Paolo Simoncelli (Marco Simoncelli's father) is also doing a great work and is building up a similar (yet much smaller) organization.

But Valentino is the only one who is doing it specifically and exclusively for Italian riders.
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I don't believe Lorenzo's wrist is aching as much as he's saying, I have just watched an onboard video of him riding the RCV yesterday and he is pushing hard. It seems to me that he wouldn't want to put at risk another fall in a damp track on Sunday and terminate his first and much important test with Honda. It was just an excuse for Ducati.

Nobody can lap as much as he did since Friday with pain in the wrist.
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I don't believe Lorenzo's wrist is aching as much as he's saying, I have just watched an onboard video of him riding the RCV yesterday and he is pushing hard. It seems to me that he wouldn't want to put at risk another fall in a damp track on Sunday and terminate his first and much important test with Honda. It was just an excuse for Ducati.

Nobody can lap as much as he did since Friday with pain in the wrist.

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Nonsense.
I can understand your fanboy frustration but I severely doubt Lorenzo will tame the RCV as fast as he did with the Desmo. Actually his success will depend on Honda providing him a much more stable and smoother bike, which, in turn, will need a bigger and taller bike, not the toy the current version is. This would be a radical overturn for Honda, I don't think they will do it anytime soon. This version of RCV I particularly don't believe he can ever like it. I have seen many people talking about corner speed but that isn't the point he needs from this piece of metal (if he learned to ride the Ducati, then he can ride any other bike on the grid in the center of the curve), the bike is over reactive for his style because is short and tiny, and therefore transmits all the motion reaction directly to his body/arms with less filtering than Yamaha or Ducati. That goes in direct encounter with his needs, letting him horribly insecure over the saddle.

Forget any shit about pain, himself told media during weekend that on Sunday his wrist was much better and that he was expecting it to be even better on Tuesday.
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I don't believe Lorenzo's wrist is aching as much as he's saying, I have just watched an onboard video of him riding the RCV yesterday and he is pushing hard. It seems to me that he wouldn't want to put at risk another fall in a damp track on Sunday and terminate his first and much important test with Honda. It was just an excuse for Ducati.

Nobody can lap as much as he did since Friday with pain in the wrist.


Absolute rubbish!
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I don't believe Lorenzo's wrist is aching as much as he's saying, I have just watched an onboard video of him riding the RCV yesterday and he is pushing hard. It seems to me that he wouldn't want to put at risk another fall in a damp track on Sunday and terminate his first and much important test with Honda. It was just an excuse for Ducati.

Nobody can lap as much as he did since Friday with pain in the wrist.
When you present your medical degree your statement might carry some weight. Until then it's pure speculation with absolutely zero support behind it.
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