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November 5th, 2018, 08:52 AM   #91
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Yeah, but I don't care about whether a 4 stroke 1000cc bike can run laptimes that are a few tenths, or even a second or two faster than a 500cc two stroke. For me, a two stroke 500 is more than fast enough, but (crucially) much more fun.

I rode an 09 Yamaha TZ250 (completely standard) and it was the best bike I've ever ridden. I reckon I'd be faster on my Supersport-spec R6...but I'd pick the TZ250 any day of the week.

Laptimes aren't the be-all and end-all for many riders - fun is the aim. Many find a superlight 2 stroke more enjoyable than a more powerful but heavier 4 stroke.
You want to try riding either a 400 or 500 cc 2 stroke bike, the revs are ludicrous, just take a look at some of the 500 gp races when it was 2 stroke at launch on the grid, absolute mayhem.
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You want to try riding either a 400 or 500 cc 2 stroke bike, the revs are ludicrous, just take a look at some of the 500 gp races when it was 2 stroke at launch on the grid, absolute mayhem.
True - but electronics and fuel injection tech is light years improved from olden times. Two strokes really are that much more fun. They even smell better. The old RZV 500R are one of the most desired, most collectible bikes more than 30 years after they stopped making them. The sound from the exhaust will give you wood.

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True - but electronics and fuel injection tech is light years improved from olden times. Two strokes really are that much more fun. They even smell better. The old RZV 500R are one of the most desired, most collectible bikes more than 30 years after they stopped making them. The sound from the exhaust will give you wood.

One of my best mates has just completed restoring a Yamaha RD400 which he rode to a regular dinner we have. Classic bike.

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You want to try riding either a 400 or 500 cc 2 stroke bike, the revs are ludicrous, just take a look at some of the 500 gp races when it was 2 stroke at launch on the grid, absolute mayhem.
The power band was ludicrous , but as revs go, today’s bikes turn thousands more rpm’s than the smokers.
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November 5th, 2018, 04:03 PM   #95
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One of my best mates has just completed restoring a Yamaha RD400 which he rode to a regular dinner we have. Classic bike.
RD400s were crude little missiles much loved in their time. The later RZ350s we had here were great inexpensive bikes that were very competitive against much bigger bikes in club races.

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True - but electronics and fuel injection tech is light years improved from olden times. Two strokes really are that much more fun. They even smell better. The old RZV 500R are one of the most desired, most collectible bikes more than 30 years after they stopped making them. The sound from the exhaust will give you wood.

Just as a case in point, when I raced it was all 2 strokes, I used to have the mother of all hangovers after a weekend spent smelling Castrol R

After I stopped racing I wanted a VFR 400 NC30, sadly because of my height I couldn't ride one it was far to tiny hahaha
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