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September 24th, 2018, 05:23 PM   #111
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To the race, Jorge is waaaay out of line blaming Marc for his accident. That was nothing but him wanting to lead the race so he could implement his strategy of lowering the pace to preserve the soft front. As it turned out , he blew the start and had he taken his spot of 3rd -4th his strategy was blown. Instead he attempted to gas it in the marbles and this is what he got. The Duc is a freakin beast and no longer has bogey tracks, it’s competive everywhere and dominant at certain tracks. I bet it is right up front at PI, supposedly it’s worst track. The Honda is a good bike that does everything well but only does one thing better than the Duc, and would be an also ran if not for Marquez. Speaking of Marquez, the kid is unreal. His style and competitive spirit make GP what it is, the most exciting motor sport or just sport period . Good or bad, he is right in the middle of everything exciting and the sport is in good hands for years to come. His presence makes great riders make silly mistakes as we have seen all year and though Dovi and Lorenzo have the better bike, they both are hopelessly out of the title hunt. They know they have to be almost flawless to beat him and the harder they try the more mistakes they make. Great run by the Suzuki’s and Aleix on the Aprilia was ride of the day for non winners.
I am a Jorge fan, but sure he has no divine right to have the lead after the first corner of every race which seemed to be his attitude in regard to the Aragon race.
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September 24th, 2018, 08:53 PM   #112
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Anybody think if Yamaha don’t fix the bike soon that Valentino will make a pitch for Ducati?
He’s certainly coy enough to use the Italian hero on the Italian bike sentiment like last time.
Not a chance,the bum has failed miserably on the Ducati once already and they bent over backwards for him and his demands last time.
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September 25th, 2018, 02:27 AM   #114
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Yamaha is not cash strapped as a company.

The difference is that HRC and Ducati Corse are independent entities that get their own budget and roadmaps and can do whatever they want with it while Yamaha racing is just a part of their European division and do not have anywhere close to the autonomous freedom the other two enjoy.

This is in many ways similar to what’s happening with the WSBK effort from Honda.
Stop talking out your ass as usual bottom feeder. There are having money issue, it's been publish. Their business model is wrong and that's a contributing factor to their woes. Look how long Repsol has been with Honda. Get a hint you damm idiot.
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Yes that was my point, that the motogp effort was under-resourced/cash strapped.

I wasn’t saying they had problems with selling commuter bikes, pianos or stereo equipment, I still have one of their excellent CD players as it happens.
You forgot Organs as well and we all know who the organ grinders monkey is.
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Anybody think if Yamaha don’t fix the bike soon that Valentino will make a pitch for Ducati?
He’s certainly coy enough to use the Italian hero on the Italian bike sentiment like last time.
I really don't think Ducati would take him back, he's over the hill even Petrucci, leaves him for dead.
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Anybody think if Yamaha don’t fix the bike soon that Valentino will make a pitch for Ducati?
He’s certainly coy enough to use the Italian hero on the Italian bike sentiment like last time.
Not a hope in hell. rossi already had a go at wrecking Ducati. Luckily they rehired Stoner after that to undo the crap that rossi had caused.
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On one hand, Yamaha's poor results are because Rossi can't develop a bike. On the other hand, Yamaha's good results in the past had nothing to do with Rossi's development skills.
Good to see you are finally getting it.
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Stop talking out your ass as usual bottom feeder. There are having money issue, it's been publish. Their business model is wrong and that's a contributing factor to their woes. Look how long Repsol has been with Honda. Get a hint you damm idiot.
The "damm" idiot is correct. Yamaha, the company, has a $10 billion market cap. Their share price is 50% higher than it was in 2015 and almost triple what it was in 2012.

Money issues at the factory racing team are different to money issues at the head corporate level, which is something you clearly don't appreciate.
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To the race, Jorge is waaaay out of line blaming Marc for his accident. That was nothing but him wanting to lead the race so he could implement his strategy of lowering the pace to preserve the soft front. As it turned out , he blew the start and had he taken his spot of 3rd -4th his strategy was blown. Instead he attempted to gas it in the marbles and this is what he got. The Duc is a freakin beast and no longer has bogey tracks, it’s competive everywhere and dominant at certain tracks. I bet it is right up front at PI, supposedly it’s worst track. The Honda is a good bike that does everything well but only does one thing better than the Duc, and would be an also ran if not for Marquez. Speaking of Marquez, the kid is unreal. His style and competitive spirit make GP what it is, the most exciting motor sport or just sport period . Good or bad, he is right in the middle of everything exciting and the sport is in good hands for years to come. His presence makes great riders make silly mistakes as we have seen all year and though Dovi and Lorenzo have the better bike, they both are hopelessly out of the title hunt. They know they have to be almost flawless to beat him and the harder they try the more mistakes they make. Great run by the Suzuki’s and Aleix on the Aprilia was ride of the day for non winners.
Agreed.

The Ducati isn't bad at PI. Iannone showed us that. It's more that Dovi has never been good there.
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