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July 5th, 2018, 05:36 PM   #141
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You just gave yourself the answer. If Rossi knew Dovi’s tires were fucked, he should have known the only place Dovi had the advantage was on that straight. He fucked up and should have backed off and got him again in the same spot he had made 10 passes and not let the only advantage Dovi had left come into play. Dovi knew this and it was his only chance left to make the move.
And the only way Dovi could finish ahead of Rossi was to immediately re-pass him. Again, if Dovi was remiss in contesting the corner so close to the end of the race why didn't Rossi concede that corner at Argentina with many laps to go against MM who was so much faster instead of crashing then calling MM a dangerous rider?.
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And the only way Dovi could finish ahead of Rossi was to immediately re-pass him. Again, if Dovi was remiss in contesting the corner so close to the end of the race why didn't Rossi concede that corner at Argentina with many laps to go against MM who was so much faster instead of crashing then calling MM a dangerous rider?.
Which is virtually impossible because the start finish line is close to the last chicane. Had Rossi let him go, he could have passed him again in the same spot and Dovi wouldnít have had the space to overtake Rossi. If you lead out of that chicane you are going to hit the line first.
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Assen 2018 free to watch on Motogp.com
Thanks mate. Although I have BT sport so not only did I watch it live, I recorded it and, because it was such a good race, I think I have watched it about 4 times already.
When Vale hits the back of Jorge it still scares me a bit.
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Rossi whining because Dovi overtook him in an "unintelligent" (quoting the exact word he used on Italian TV) way, is a perfect example of why I never was and never will be a Rossi fan.
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Rossi whining because Dovi overtook him in an "unintelligent" (quoting the exact word he used on Italian TV) way, is a perfect example of why I never was and never will be a Rossi fan.
And Dovi whining just because thatís what he seems to do these days .



And what was it like to be involved in a race that produced an estimated 175 passes?

"I think every rider loves to overtake other riders, and it's really nice when this happens. But there is always some way to overtake riders. I think most of the time with some riders, it's too aggressive," Dovizioso said.

Can you give an example?

"Everybody did everything within the rules. Everything OK, but really on the limit. I think there are some overtakes when you enter very fast at the end, which can happen. But if you are doing this intentionally, it means you want to do that, and this is bad."
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And Dovi whining just because thatís what he seems to do these days .



And what was it like to be involved in a race that produced an estimated 175 passes?

"I think every rider loves to overtake other riders, and it's really nice when this happens. But there is always some way to overtake riders. I think most of the time with some riders, it's too aggressive," Dovizioso said.

Can you give an example?

"Everybody did everything within the rules. Everything OK, but really on the limit. I think there are some overtakes when you enter very fast at the end, which can happen. But if you are doing this intentionally, it means you want to do that, and this is bad."


we all see and judge situations basing on how they are shown to us. I did read and listen to their English interviews, which sounded different and softer than the ones in Italian. Rossi was pretty hard on Dovi while commenting the situation with the Italian media.

In case you or anyone that will read our exchange of messages speaks or understands the language here's the video:



he whined like a baby saying that Dovi should have let him go and that he would have ended up on the podium, had Dovi not overtook him.

IMHO that is unfair and pretentious.
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Rossi whining because Dovi overtook him in an "unintelligent" (quoting the exact word he used on Italian TV) way, is a perfect example of why I never was and never will be a Rossi fan.


I saw your complete post before your ninja edit . I didnít see anything offensive or bad with your original post though.
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we all see and judge situations basing on how they are shown to us. I did read and listen to their English interviews, which sounded different and softer than the ones in Italian. Rossi was pretty hard on Dovi while commenting the situation with the Italian media.

In case you or anyone that will read our exchange of messages speaks or understands the language here's the video:



he whined like a baby saying that Dovi should have let him go and that he would have ended up on the podium, had Dovi not overtook him.

IMHO that is unfair and pretentious.
I didn’t think it was such a bad whine, he mostly seemed just disappointed not to have finished on the podium having ridden well, didn’t demonise Dovi etc .

However as Povol said in an earlier discussion of the move, he has perhaps been accustomed to riders giving way to him for so long that he unconsciously expects same. He has made similar moves countless times himself, the immediate re-pass being pretty much a patented Rossi move, and in this case probably Dovi’s only chance to finish ahead of Valentino in the race. It is called racing for a reason.

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In case you or anyone that will read our exchange of messages speaks or understands the language here's the video:
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he whined like a baby saying that Dovi should have let him go and that he would have ended up on the podium, had Dovi not overtook him.

IMHO that is unfair and pretentious.
I didn't do that well the last time I interpreted an Italian link of yours, but I will see if this sounds any worse to me than his self-righteous English statement. Thanks for the link.
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