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June 19th, 2018, 12:37 AM   #1
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Vinales who?

To any Vinales fan: sorry for the bitter thread title.

But this is what I am actually wondering. Yes, Yamaha is not doing great, yes after all Maverick is 3rd in the championship, yes, he won (and not once) yes, he scored podiums...

But who is Vinales? An insane talent (as I believe) limited by the current shape of the Yamaha? A really good rider who is not the phenom that he seemed to be in 2016/beginning of 2017?

His statements are more up&down than my girlfriend's mood when I ask her where we should go eating. One day he says he can win, the next day he says the bike is shit and that he feels miserable. All this happened also in 2017 but he still re-signed with Yamaha before the season even started. He has even been rumored to have tried to go back to Suzuki a few weeks ago.

I can't figure this guy out at all. I only know that watching him being 10th or 11th feels WRONG.

What do you think boyz?
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He’s a younger Dovi.
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To any Vinales fan: sorry for the bitter thread title.

But this is what I am actually wondering. Yes, Yamaha is not doing great, yes after all Maverick is 3rd in the championship, yes, he won (and not once) yes, he scored podiums...

But who is Vinales? An insane talent (as I believe) limited by the current shape of the Yamaha? A really good rider who is not the phenom that he seemed to be in 2016/beginning of 2017?

His statements are more up&down than my girlfriend's mood when I ask her where we should go eating. One day he says he can win, the next day he says the bike is shit and that he feels miserable. All this happened also in 2017 but he still re-signed with Yamaha before the season even started. He has even been rumored to have tried to go back to Suzuki a few weeks ago.

I can't figure this guy out at all. I only know that watching him being 10th or 11th feels WRONG.

What do you think boyz?
Think Vinalez has a problem with Dunlop rubber

When there is no Dunlop rubber on the track, he is fast.
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The guy is clearly really quick when the stars align, but outside of that, give him a shred of adversity and he just doesn't seem to be able to adapt around, or solve any problems.
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The guy is clearly really quick when the stars align, but outside of that, give him a shred of adversity and he just doesn't seem to be able to adapt around, or solve any problems.
Exactly. I believe he gives up too easily.
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He's like a clueless Lorenzo, in the sense that he's incredibly fast when the conditions are right for him, but unlike Jorge he has no idea of the type of bike he wants or what the issues are. And since he doesn't have JL's prestige, he looks like a whiny cunt right now. Personally I think a rider that doesn't know what's wrong is of little worth. Maybe he needs a miracle chief mechanic ala Burgess or be paired with better development rider than Rossi. Perhaps a JL/MV pairing would work wonders but no chance now. Also I think he renewed his contract early because he feared Zarco would take his place.
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Well, at least he will keep that seat warm for Bagnaia or Morbidelli in 2021!
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Well, at least he will keep that seat warm for Bagnaia or Morbidelli in 2021!
Yeah, I know it's a long way off, but it will be interesting to see who the latest 'hot property' is in a year or two. Man, it could even be Jorge Martin by then.
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Vinales really is struggling with set up lately. Cannot find his happy medium.. Should take some steps to get a new crew chief, I've read often that Mav has requested big setting changes that his chief has been reluctant to do. He's obviously talented, just not overly adaptable as others like Marquez and Rossi.
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Vinales really is struggling with set up lately. Cannot find his happy medium.. Should take some steps to get a new crew chief, I've read often that Mav has requested big setting changes that his chief has been reluctant to do. He's obviously talented, just not overly adaptable as others like Marquez and Rossi.
I remember a few years back, it was guaranteed the Pedrosa would get the hole shot if he was anywhere on the the first two rows, then would fade in the second half of the race. It was all in the setup and when they changed it around, his starts suffered and he was nowhere and then he would come strong the second half of the race. They never were able to find the happy medium for him.
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