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June 18th, 2018, 03:05 PM   #211
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what a huge disappointment this kid has been
I believe you can find a post from me suggesting that MV was WAY over hyped. My current pick is Joan Mir as the next big nothing to pollute MotoGP.

JLo changed his style to make this bike work for him. He never got loose with the rear swapping about on the Yamaha. Kudos to him, like Rossi, for adapting. Ducati has proved, exactly what Stoner claimed. They don't listen to the damn rider. Otherwise, Lorenzo would have had a correct tank, LAST year, when some of us were waiting for his skill to show on the Italian machine and give everyone headaches.

I would prefer MM vs JL on separate machines. But it is what it is. I just want one of them to break VR's championship record, so Rossi's grip on the series is relaxed.
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I disagree. Rossi failing to win on the Ducati and leaving is what finally made Ducati realize they needed to change the way they managed the team and they brought it a critical piece with Gigi. When Gigi arrived he said Ducati was operating very poorly... they was a severe lack of communication between the GP team and the factory so development suffered. There was never anything Rossi/burgess or Lorenzo could've done to turn things around for Ducati until after Gigi streamlined things. Had Stoner stayed with Ducati it would've only furthered delayed Ducati looking at themselves for corrections.
I think we might agree not sure. I'm aware of Gigi's influence, what I was trying to say was under him development would have been quicker with Lorenzo or Rossi as opposed to Dovi.
Also what I said earlier about the dna of the current bike isn't quite correct as I remember they are now using the frame with higher lateral flex (built for Lorenzo).
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June 18th, 2018, 08:04 PM   #213
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Brilliant race and congratulations to Jorge. As suspected Marc did not risk any more points and rode smart. I’m very impressed with his ability to make that hard compound work so well. Another solid race for Valentino considering the current package and pace Yamaha has which is poop but he did the best he could. Dovi hit a rough patch but I don’t think his issue is psychological like many suggested, I think he was just pushing too hard and made a mistake....simple as that. Cal did good too! Very entertaining races in all three classes!
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June 19th, 2018, 12:24 AM   #214
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The 2019 RCV they tested today looks positively evil.
Everyone else should just pack up and go home now.


Honda also said that they will be following the 2 riders with 2 completely separated development roads, as their riding styles are so different and as Honda has both the money and the people to be able to do so.

I have a feeling 2019 will be a good year to HRC fans.
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Everybody has different parameters which they judge greatness. Anyone who can on multiple occasions duelled with MM is great in my book; especially on a bike that still doesn’t turn as well as the Jap bikes.

Sure. 2017 was an insane year for Dovi.

By "REAL top rider" I mean a guy that can hypothetically aim to a win at every race, for more than one season. I'm not saying Dovi is not that kind of guy, but I'm saying it still has to be proven, IMHO.

His responsabilities raised as he is now leader of the Ducati team, who is investing and will invest a lot on him.

Let's see
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Honda also said that they will be following the 2 riders with 2 completely separated development roads, as their riding styles are so different and as Honda has both the money and the people to be able to do so.

I have a feeling 2019 will be a good year to HRC fans.
I believe it will be phenomenal.
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I believe it will be phenomenal.
I am hoping Jorge will do well at Honda , and stay there .
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I am hoping Jorge will do well at Honda , and stay there .
He just has to win a race a year or so to keep honda happy. Thats all Dani had to do at least.
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I believe it will be phenomenal.
I am hopeful, although it may take some time as others have said.

A few things.

Honda want their bike to be the winning bike, at the moment it is mainly perceived as MM winning, and their bikes are not in demand for satellite teams/by satellite riders; the latter in particular I suspect doesn’t best please them.

MM may eventually leave. I think he may go for the 8 titles first, but I do see him leaving eventually.

If Jorge can win 3 world championships on a Yamaha and 50 odd premier class races (including two thus far on a Ducati) on non-Hondas, doesn’t look good for Honda if he flounders on a Honda.

I have just bought a Honda Civic type R car at least, in solidarity with Jorge.
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June 19th, 2018, 06:36 AM   #220
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... their bikes are not in demand for satellite teams/by satellite riders; the latter in particular I suspect doesn’t best please them.
Years of giving the satellites shit bikes and crap support will do that.
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