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June 4th, 2018, 03:30 AM   #21
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All that though for a single pole lap???? If poles always equated to race wins then I could understand...
I am not a Vale fan, but you have to put it into context, mate.
Whether you like him or not, he is very popular, like McDonalds, you might not like it, but there's no denying that it's popular place to eat. So when you have Vale getting pole in his back yard, it must have been impossible to commentate and not be swept up in the moment by tens of thousands of screaming fans.

As for Marc, I agree, if he had ridden for the championship and not the race, like he has recently learnt to do, then he could have got 5th or 6th, a shame really, but he still has a solid(ish) lead in the title race.
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I am not a Vale fan, but you have to put it into context, mate.
Whether you like him or not, he is very popular, like McDonalds, you might not like it, but there's no denying that it's popular place to eat. So when you have Vale getting pole in his back yard, it must have been impossible to commentate and not be swept up in the moment by tens of thousands of screaming fans.

As for Marc, I agree, if he had ridden for the championship and not the race, like he has recently learnt to do, then he could have got 5th or 6th, a shame really, but he still has a solid(ish) lead in the title race.

But what if then a ton of people, that by coincidence tend to look/behave like they are not particularly intelligent, go beyond the liking/not liking and start to say that McDonald's is the best place to eat, the only place you should eat at really, then they say that it's even healthy, and then they start to hate every restaurant that's not a McDonald's....I'm sure you'll get what I mean.

OT: I effin hate McDonald's btw
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But what if then a ton of people, that by coincidence tend to look/behave like they are not particularly intelligent, go beyond the liking/not liking and start to say that McDonald's is the best place to eat, the only place you should eat at really, then they say that it's even healthy, and then they start to hate every restaurant that's not a McDonald's....I'm sure you'll get what I mean.

OT: I effin hate McDonald's btw


You’re right about McDonald’s.
The fast food claim is bang on, the friggin crap is guaranteed to go through you faster than a Porsche
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But what if then a ton of people, that by coincidence tend to look/behave like they are not particularly intelligent, go beyond the liking/not liking and start to say that McDonald's is the best place to eat, the only place you should eat at really, then they say that it's even healthy, and then they start to hate every restaurant that's not a McDonald's....I'm sure you'll get what I mean.
Those people are called the Ducatisti.
We ignore them.
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But what if then a ton of people, that by coincidence tend to look/behave like they are not particularly intelligent, go beyond the liking/not liking and start to say that McDonald's is the best place to eat, the only place you should eat at really, then they say that it's even healthy, and then they start to hate every restaurant that's not a McDonald's....I'm sure you'll get what I mean.

OT: I effin hate McDonald's btw
You are Italian, of course you hate McDonald’s and so you should.

One of the great disappointments of my life having first visited Paris in more enlightened times was to see McDonald’s stores there in more recent years.

I also, apart from Mick Doohan and Casey Stoner, take pride in the fact that Starbucks largely failed here, there already being an established coffee culture which largely sprang from the post WW2 Italian immigration.
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Those people are called the Ducatisti.
We ignore them.

Did you ever ride a Ducati? Honest
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You are Italian, of course you hate McDonald’s and so you should.

One of the great disappointments of my life having first visited Paris in more enlightened times was to see McDonald’s stores there in more recent years.

I also, apart from Mick Doohan and Casey Stoner, take pride in the fact that Starbucks largely failed here, there already being an established coffee culture which largely sprang from the post WW2 Italian immigration.

At least Starbucks is good and cheap for breakfast. Not that I would know as we don't have Starbucks over here...but it helps when I travel.

My McDonald's comparison wasn't actually addressed to McDonald's I hope y'all got that
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Those people are called the Ducatisti.
We ignore them.
What, followers of an Italian marque which has made beautiful bikes for many decades, including an essentially artisanally produced bike which was the product of an Italian engineer of particular genius on which Casey Stoner spanked Ronald Mc Donald, after which said clown thought it would be easy for him to do the same, but then couldn’t ride the thing without trainer wheels himself?.

You need artistry and a soul to ride a Ducati, not clown feet and every advantage in the world.
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At least Starbucks is good and cheap for breakfast. Not that I would know as we don't have Starbucks over here...but it helps when I travel.

My McDonald's comparison wasn't actually addressed to McDonald's I hope y'all got that
Sure, I am fairly familiar with the USA as well and Starbucks is clearly better than what preceded it, but still isn’t exactly coffee imo, and has regressed since it started.

You don’t have Starbucks in Italy for the same reasons we don’t have it much in Australia, except much more so.

I liked the metaphor and extended it, there are many reasons to admire Valentino Rossi who is a very great rider, but many of his fans mainly go for the clown aspect, and are unaccepting of others having more adventurous/wider tastes.

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What, followers of an Italian marque which has made beautiful bikes for many decades, including an essentially artisanally produced bike which was the product of an Italian engineer of particular genius on which Casey Stoner spanked Ronald Mc Donald, after which said clown thought it would be easy for him to do the same, but then couldn’t ride the thing without trainer wheels himself?.

You need artistry and a soul to ride a Ducati, not clown feet and every advantage in the world.
And if it’s a 15 year old one, you get to visit every mechanic from point A to Point B!
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