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June 6th, 2018, 06:43 AM   #111
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Definitely need a link to that article...
This was his first hint:
Rossi back to Honda in 2011? | Visordown

I can't find the later comment, but he said something like "the door is always open to talented riders at HRC". This is after Rossi had won the 08/09 titles and seemed unstoppable again.

Later too:

HRC Boss: Rossi return is 'possible' | Visordown
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June 6th, 2018, 09:51 AM   #112
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You and Honda (if they are) are kidding yourselves if you believe George is going to play second to anyone! Last season and a half shows he gives zero fucks about your “mapping 8”. If he thinks he has a chance to win, he feels it is your job to stop him, not his job to hand it to you. Regardless if you are on his team or not. It is racing.. If you can’t beat me, fuck off slow poke.

Honda has seen this and they know what they are getting. If they think he is going to change his personality to have the opportunity to ride with Mark, it is going to be a long two seasons for Honda.

I feel they know what they are getting. The are getting the only other guy to win a champ since 2011. A guy that if they give him a bike he can ride (and yes, he needs a particular type of bike), but if they give him that bike, they have a great chance to finish 1-2 in the champ in the coming years.

Not saying it is a lock. Probably 50/50, but for only $4mm investment.. Great return on investment.


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Agree for most part, though I think you've oversimplified the risk and prospect of overtaking a 'teammate' that was taking unnecessarily defensive lines and crash pace (which he almost did at Malaysia) when clearly he 'didn’t have the pace.'

My friend Arrabi will tell you team orders don't exist at Honda anyway so we won't ever have to worry about this issue (except when it seemed to appear on occasion). I don't believe team orders are non-existent at Honda, but you can bet they'd never put up a coded message for public scrutiny like the infamous 'map 8'.

Honda/Yamaha/Suzuki are more conventional DNA (starting with the twin-spar chassis) despite being individually unique whereas Ducati (and perhaps KTM, Aprilia) is/are idiosyncratic "protoypes". I predict Lorenzo will be competitive rather quickly, certainly not as long to adapt as it took for Ducati.


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Agree for most part, though I think you've oversimplified the risk and prospect of overtaking a 'teammate' that was taking unnecessarily defensive lines and crash pace (which he almost did at Malaysia) when clearly he 'didn’t have the pace.'

My friend Arrabi will tell you team orders don't exist at Honda anyway so we won't ever have to worry about this issue (except when it seemed to appear on occasion). I don't believe team orders are non-existent at Honda, but you can bet they'd never put up a coded message for public scrutiny like the infamous 'map 8'.

Honda/Yamaha/Suzuki are more conventional DNA (starting with the twin-spar chassis) despite being individually unique whereas Ducati (and perhaps KTM, Aprilia) is/are idiosyncratic "protoypes". I predict Lorenzo will be competitive rather quickly, certainly not as long to adapt as it took for Ducati.


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He'll have picked up a few new riding techniques at Ducati too.
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June 6th, 2018, 10:22 AM   #114
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Well if he finds the honda a bit physical and tiring, he knows to ask for a tank extension.
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Agree for most part, though I think you've oversimplified the risk and prospect of overtaking a 'teammate' that was taking unnecessarily defensive lines and crash pace (which he almost did at Malaysia) when clearly he 'didn’t have the pace.'

My friend Arrabi will tell you team orders don't exist at Honda anyway so we won't ever have to worry about this issue (except when it seemed to appear on occasion). I don't believe team orders are non-existent at Honda, but you can bet they'd never put up a coded message for public scrutiny like the infamous 'map 8'.

Honda/Yamaha/Suzuki are more conventional DNA (starting with the twin-spar chassis) despite being individually unique whereas Ducati (and perhaps KTM, Aprilia) is/are idiosyncratic "protoypes". I predict Lorenzo will be competitive rather quickly, certainly not as long to adapt as it took for Ducati.


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When was the last time Pedro aggressively claimed his position back after Marquez overtook him?

Exactly.

HRC doesn’t need a mapping 8. You will know your role and shut your mouth.
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When was the last time Pedro aggressively claimed his position back after Marquez overtook him?

Exactly.

HRC doesn’t need a mapping 8. You will know your role and shut your mouth.
Good lord, I hope Arrabi doesn't read this post....











It's funny you should say this, talking about what goes on at HRC, my great friend Arrabi and I have debated this issue for years, particularly over battles the two Repsol riders have had over the years at the Catalan GP. Synn, revisit Catalunya GPs years 2013,14, &17 in particular. I think you'll find Pedrosa is not exactly 'map 8ing'.

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June 6th, 2018, 04:25 PM   #117
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When was the last time Pedro aggressively claimed his position back after Marquez overtook him?

Exactly.

HRC doesn’t need a mapping 8. You will know your role and shut your mouth.
What about Valencia 2015?

Oh, wait...
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