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June 4th, 2018, 08:36 AM   #321
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You do realize that Rossi score zero points in Argentina after being rammed off the track ...
Maybe the old coot will learn to get out of the way.
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Is JLo the only rider in history to win a MotoGP race on a Yamaha & a Ducati?

Was wrong on this one. Capirossi won on the Yamaha, Honda and Ducati in the premier class.
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June 4th, 2018, 09:44 AM   #323
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a few mentions here

1 from the time lorenzo left 2017 till now rossi and lorenzo have the same win total. so if lorenzo is so bad how bad is rossi?

2 lorenzo now has 100% more wins on the ducati than rossi every will.

3 it took dovi almost 4 years to win a race on the ducati took lorenzo 1.5 years to win the same race

4 if dovi didnt win 6 races last year would we be having a lorenzo discussion?
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June 4th, 2018, 11:36 AM   #324
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as a bike, the Ducati has improved exponentially since the days of Rossi, thanks in large part to Gigi. for several seasons that bike suffered from massive issues causing the front tire to wash out.
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a few mentions here

1 from the time lorenzo left 2017 till now rossi and lorenzo have the same win total. so if lorenzo is so bad how bad is rossi?

2 lorenzo now has 100% more wins on the ducati than rossi every will.

3 it took dovi almost 4 years to win a race on the ducati took lorenzo 1.5 years to win the same race

4 if dovi didnt win 6 races last year would we be having a lorenzo discussion?
1. And Lorenzo would have put the bike rossi yamaha on the top step regularly.

2. Your maths is off. 100% of zero is zero. To be correct you should say Lorenzo is infinitely better than rossi on the Duc.
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June 4th, 2018, 02:34 PM   #326
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Was wrong on this one. Capirossi won on the Yamaha, Honda and Ducati in the premier class.
He won on a Honda and a Ducati, not on a Yamaha as far as I know.

They actually said on the broadcast Jorge was the only one to win for Yamaha and Ducati, which is correct to my recollection. I looked it up and Loris did ride a Yamaha 500 for 1 year, but did not win.
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as a bike, the Ducati has improved exponentially since the days of Rossi, thanks in large part to Gigi. for several seasons that bike suffered from massive issues causing the front tire to wash out.
True. Imagine how competitive Stoner would have been on the current Ducati.
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He won on a Honda and a Ducati, not on a Yamaha as far as I know.

They actually said on the broadcast Jorge was the only one to win for Yamaha and Ducati, which is correct to my recollection. I looked it up and Loris did ride a Yamaha 500 for 1 year, but did not win.
1996 he rode for Yamaha and won in Australia.
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You do realize that Rossi score zero points in Argentina after being rammed off the track while Vinales score 11? Keep trying to spin it anyway you like. You and others have been wrong on Maverick putting Rossi in his pocket.
Yes, I both have good eyesight and can count. That incident actually resulted in a net points gain for Rossi vs MM, he was likely going to finish 4th or 5th which proves my point about consistency rather than truly competitive pace, and was an error of judgement as far as his total points tally was concerned ie vs Vinales because MM who was a second a lap faster and had caught him up by 9 seconds was inevitably going to pass him on the next corner if not that one.

If you score no points you score no points. If you want to argue that the incident at Argentina was deliberate on his part to stop MM getting further ahead in the points I might consider that as an argument.

Standings in the championship have traditionally been decided by the points tallies at the end of the season, btw.
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1996 he rode for Yamaha and won in Australia.
You are correct of course. Looked at the wrong column.
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