MotoGP Forum  

Go Back   MotoGP Forum > MotoGP Forum > MotoGP

MotoGP MotoGP Forum - MotoGP Class Motorcycle Racing Forum


Like Tree267Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
June 3rd, 2018, 11:59 PM   #311
Senior Member
 
Holypuck's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2018
From: Northern Italy

Posts: 423
Likes: 351

I Ride: Honda CRF250 (modified for Dirt Track)
Quote:
Originally Posted by p4p1 View Post
I saw someone online say that Lorenzo was booed on the podium, if true it kind of destroys Synns argument.

it's true, and it was perfectly audible on TV.

You really think 150k Rossi fans could shut up in front of a victory of the only guy that they hate almost as much as MM??
Holypuck is offline  
 
June 4th, 2018, 12:54 AM   #312
Gaz
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2007
From: Dubvegas, or thereabouts

Posts: 5,634
Likes: 2029

Quote:
Originally Posted by Holypuck View Post
and Lorenzo's honesty
Would also add humility.

This has been a lesson for Jorge (as it was Vale before him) and the humble pie may not taste great, but sometimes how one recovers from this kind of thing says more about the individual than many of their previous successes.
Gaz is online now  
June 4th, 2018, 03:34 AM   #313
Senior Member
 
L8Braker's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2006
From: Tar Heel State

Posts: 2,515
Likes: 34

Congrats to Jorge, I predicted he would get a win on the Duc this year. Curious if Jorge's Duc starts having reliability issues for the remainder of the season.

//L8
L8Braker is offline  
June 4th, 2018, 03:50 AM   #314
Senior Member
 
The Burning Barber's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2015
From: Australia

Posts: 180
Likes: 92

Wow, what a race. Without the bitter you can't truly taste the sweet. I really wanted to see Jorge nail at least one win on the Ducati and nail it he sure did. Solid rides by Dovi and Valentino as well. Was a shame to see Marc not recover from that front end loss that seemed to go on forever, would have only made it more exciting to see him in the mix for a podium. It's nice to see the points tally getting compressed again though.

When is Jorge going to release his own launch control software to production bikes? It would fly off the shelves I tell ya.
payne by name and libby like this.
The Burning Barber is offline  
June 4th, 2018, 04:46 AM   #315
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2015
From: Quebec

Posts: 233
Likes: 71

I Ride: RZ500
Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelm View Post
So even a third placing (a creditable one I don't dispute) is cause for much exuberance for you guys these days?. And after years of being a 'devil' to many Rossi fans Rossi being civil to Jorge on the podium after a dominant race win by him is enough to rehabilitate him?.

Yamaha have realised they need Jorge, perhaps with some encouragement from Dorna, and hence so does Rossi as a future team principal who will run Yamahas. That Petronas money would transfer quite nicely to a VR 46 team, and Vinales doesn't look as though he can do much except ride the bike which is handed to him, and hence can't be Yamaha's sole future, and most other candidates are inexperienced. .

Wait, what? When Maverick got the factory ride your narrative and those of your ilk here was that Valentino would have his hands full, that Maverick was much quicker, would prove tougher competition than Yor-Gay and that Maverick would put Rossi in his pocket and send him packing to retirement. Now that the opposite happen, it is suddenly 'Maverick not as good'. Maybe he is very good except he's been outclassed by even better rider. Of course, can't expect this sad forum to admit they were wrong...
RCV600RR, danski and synn like this.
paparazzo is offline  
June 4th, 2018, 04:48 AM   #316
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2017
From: Earth

Posts: 1,526
Likes: 667

I Ride: Your mom on most days.
Quote:
Originally Posted by paparazzo View Post
Wait, what? When Maverick got the factory ride your narrative and those of your ilk here was that Valentino would have his hands full, that Maverick was much quicker, would prove tougher competition than Yor-Gay and that Maverick would put Rossi in his pocket and send him packing to retirement. Now that the opposite happen, it is suddenly 'Maverick not as good'. Maybe he is very good except he's been outclassed by even better rider???
Donít bother.
The goalpost is shifted according to whatever the most recent situation is.
RCV600RR, paparazzo and danski like this.
synn is offline  
June 4th, 2018, 05:43 AM   #317
Senior Member
 
libby's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2015
From: Cornwall England

Posts: 452
Likes: 293

I Ride: pillion with hubs on 1200 Bandit :) Do have a full bike licence though
Quote:
Originally Posted by paparazzo View Post
Good you acknowledgment this. Notice how no one on this sad forum even mention the joking, laughing and hand shakes between Jorge and Rossi during press conference? Rossi also call Jorge a 'top rider'. Doesn't fit narrative here of Rossi being some kind of back stabbing devil who only win with special tires or Dorna's help.
he's calmed down since 2015 lol
paparazzo and synn like this.
libby is offline  
June 4th, 2018, 06:44 AM   #318
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2007
From: sydney australia

Posts: 10,378
Likes: 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by paparazzo View Post
Wait, what? When Maverick got the factory ride your narrative and those of your ilk here was that Valentino would have his hands full, that Maverick was much quicker, would prove tougher competition than Yor-Gay and that Maverick would put Rossi in his pocket and send him packing to retirement. Now that the opposite happen, it is suddenly 'Maverick not as good'. Maybe he is very good except he's been outclassed by even better rider. Of course, can't expect this sad forum to admit they were wrong...
No, my narrative was that Vinales should have been allowed to continue with the tire on which he started the season and was having good results, and that going with a 38 year old Rossi over Jorge who had won the last 3 titles won by a Yamaha rider or over a guy who had showed the early season form of Vinales last season as also appeared to be the choice Yamaha made were not the best tactical or strategic choices. I don’t think a third at this race and second in the championship, largely by consistency rather than outright pace proves me wrong as yet. He is not even very far ahead of Vinales for that matter, and the season is young.

I think Vinales needs Jorge to sort the Yamaha for him, actually.

Last edited by michaelm; June 4th, 2018 at 06:46 AM.
michaelm is online now  
June 4th, 2018, 07:59 AM   #319
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2006
From: London, United Kingdom

Posts: 138
Likes: 99

Quote:
Originally Posted by synn View Post
I said it after qualifying and I will say it again.

There is so much mutual respect between Rossi and Lorenzo right now and it was blatantly obvious after the race and in the interview.

I think thatís Rossi appreciated Lorenzo for making the same leap of faith that he did and actually taming the beast while J.Lo finally understood what an uphill task Rossi faced after his move.

These two arenít going to be BFFs, but I wonít be surprised if they carry on some sort of a friendship and admiration well after their careers are done.

Lin Jarvis must be feeling like a proud mom after her fighting sons made up.
That's a nice way of looking at but I'm not sure if I believe Rossi having "so much mutual respect for Lorenzo". Rossi is mind game player and I can't help but attribute Maverick's performances to a little of that creeping in.

Maybe I'm wrong and I will concede that Rossi is usually quite generous at the end of a race but I can't help but think that he reserves his 'games' for those that are an imminent threat to him. At the moment Jorge, isn't that.
payne by name is offline  
June 4th, 2018, 08:24 AM   #320
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2015
From: Quebec

Posts: 233
Likes: 71

I Ride: RZ500
Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelm View Post
No, my narrative was that Vinales should have been allowed to continue with the tire on which he started the season and was having good results, and that going with a 38 year old Rossi over Jorge who had won the last 3 titles won by a Yamaha rider or over a guy who had showed the early season form of Vinales last season as also appeared to be the choice Yamaha made were not the best tactical or strategic choices. I donít think a third at this race and second in the championship, largely by consistency rather than outright pace proves me wrong as yet. He is not even very far ahead of Vinales for that matter, and the season is young.

I think Vinales needs Jorge to sort the Yamaha for him, actually.
You do realize that Rossi score zero points in Argentina after being rammed off the track while Vinales score 11? Keep trying to spin it anyway you like. You and others have been wrong on Maverick putting Rossi in his pocket.
synn likes this.
paparazzo is offline  
Reply

  MotoGP Forum > MotoGP Forum > MotoGP

Tags
2018, ditalia, gran, oakley, premio



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
MotoGp - Gran Premio d'Italia 2017 - Spoilers Pigeon MotoGP 211 June 7th, 2017 12:58 AM
MotoGP: 2016 Round 06 - Gran Premio d'Italia TIM (SPOILERS) budoist MotoGP 658 June 18th, 2016 07:47 AM
MotoGP: 2013 Round 05 - Gran Premio d'Italia (SPOILERS) budoist MotoGP 164 June 4th, 2013 08:18 AM
Gran Premio de Argentina Jumkie MotoGP 6 September 13th, 2011 10:55 AM
MotoGP Expecting Warm Welcome at Gran Premio Alice d?Italia Moto GP News Bot MotoGP 0 June 1st, 2005 07:05 AM


Facebook Twitter Google+ RSS Feed



Copyright © 2005-2018 Powerslide. All rights reserved.
MotoGP Forum is a MotoGP enthusiast's forum, but it is in no way affiliated with, nor does it represent MotoGP or Dorna Sports, S.L. of Madrid, Spain.