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May 25th, 2018, 10:11 AM   #21
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I can think of a worse Ducati rider...
Let me guess, is he the cheeky British guy who got the Ducati on the podium and got twice as many top 10's and 20 odd points more than Melandri did in his Duc season despite DNF-ing 6 times more and missing a race entirely?

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Could this be two gods doing battle? Fuck no, machine guns at dawn, that’s the powersliders way. Ratatat tat. Tat, just in case someone got missed. Ah, peace and tranquility at last. Shush now, don’t make me get out my wmd deterents.
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Sure, Rossi rode a great race other than the Corkscrew incident, which was a dangerous riding error imo as I have said. Stoner was reviled for his post-race reaction, which was mild by recent Rossi standards.

At the time Stoner was assumed to be riding a bike that was intrinsically a second a lap or more faster. I somehow don't think this would have been the case had the riders swapped bikes.
Sure, but there is an interesting dynamic we can gleam from the approach of each rider’s performances. If more riders handled Rossi like Rossi or Marc, particularly Stoner and Lorenzo, who at least Lorenzo had the package to contend on fairly equal terms in regards to parity (or when the roles were reversed Rossi at Ducati Stoner at Honda), we would have seen a much different interaction. Consider that Rossi’s strategy, its a good thing Stoner didn't have the same fanciful ideations that Rossi had at Sepang, otherwise Stoner could have taken Rossi wide to express that the strategy wasn’t acceptable, right Kevin Schwantz? But lets shelve hypotheticals, it always really comes down to what we ‘want to believe anyway.


Let treat this thread as: Greatest ride of all time from the greatest rider of all time PART 2

I'll start:


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Let treat this thread as: Greatest ride of all time from the greatest rider of all time PART 2
ROOKIE MISTAKE


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Let me guess, is he the cheeky British guy who got the Ducati on the podium and got twice as many top 10's and 20 odd points more than Melandri did in his Duc season despite DNF-ing 6 times more and missing a race entirely?

We could say, that "cheeky British guy" missed the next Ducati season entirely.

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We could say, that "cheeky British guy" missed the next Ducati season entirely.

And finished 5 positions in the championship better off for it.
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And finished 5 positions in the championship better off for it.
That's why there is a saying: "quitters always prosper".
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Let treat this thread as: Greatest ride of all time from the greatest rider of all time PART 2
Actually, the thread title applies nicely for this next clip:


When a fisherman tried to box with God but his arms came up too short...


So typical of "god" you can't see him anywhere.



(Special note to the guy with the "short arms" though).
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That's why there is a saying: "quitters always prosper".
Rossi didn't neither has Lorenzo.
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Brilliant duel, I wish Stoner hadn't fell off though.
The thing that sticks with me about that race, and no matter what one's take is on the corkscrew side or Stoner's other issues/comments post race.

But FFS, they were that far in front that Stoner could fall, remount and still comfortably get second .......... by 13 or so bloody damn seconds

That is not a race but a beating that Rossi and Stoner put on the other riders considered their equal or close to it.
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Sure, but there is an interesting dynamic we can gleam from the approach of each rider’s performances. If more riders handled Rossi like Rossi or Marc, particularly Stoner and Lorenzo, who at least Lorenzo had the package to contend on fairly equal terms in regards to parity (or when the roles were reversed Rossi at Ducati Stoner at Honda), we would have seen a much different interaction. Consider that Rossi’s strategy, its a good thing Stoner didn't have the same fanciful ideations that Rossi had at Sepang, otherwise Stoner could have taken Rossi wide to express that the strategy wasn’t acceptable, right Kevin Schwantz? But lets shelve hypotheticals, it always really comes down to what we ‘want to believe anyway.


Let treat this thread as: Greatest ride of all time from the greatest rider of all time PART 2

I'll start:

Stoner very specifically elected not to run into Rossi and take them both out, which would have helped his title chances, after Rossi 'chose his line' (to employ a euphemism) in the corner where Stoner put his bike down after actually deliberately running off the track. This is what Rossi relied on with the likes of Gibernau and Stoner. In Marquez he has now encountered a rider who is as ruthless as he is, and it would appear that he doesn't like it.
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