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May 29th, 2018, 03:20 AM   #101
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Exactly I don't remember any racers helping Casey Stoner
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That's what Puig was PAID to do; find talent. Hardly a philanthropic endeavor.
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Rossi doesn't do mind games he appeals to the lowest common denominator for the vocal shit.
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Exactly I don't remember any racers helping Casey Stoner
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That's what Puig was PAID to do; find talent. Hardly a philanthropic endeavor.
Puig went beyond that.
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May 29th, 2018, 01:59 PM   #106
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I will answer - nothing.

But he did help many younger riders while racing (US riders come to mind) and fought for the 125cc guys to have paddock rights that they otherwise did not have.

Now as for Aussies that have helped their countrymen I suggest you look on the back of a postage stamp for the answer because the answer is very small.

Gardner - helping family

Doohan - nobody

Magoo - nobody

McCoy - runs a ride school but not tailored at international level

Bayliss - probably the most helpful but again, more localised but has used influence to get a few guys WSBK rides.

Vermuelen - not sure to be honest

Many of these guys do poke their heads in at junior meets from time to time but at the same time, one thing that the vast majority of Aussie sportsmen and sportswomen do is that they do not seek publicity for their assistance so many may well be helping far greater but we just will not know of it

Facts are that in this country we do not have a conveyor belt of racers that we had in the past so the chances to help are greatly reduced plus none of these guys made the money of a Rossi nor have the business connections, thus opportunity to help is greatly restricted anyway.

The Aussies that are 'putting back' if that is the right term are the likes of the Cudlins who run a junior race program (MotoStars) where the likes of Bayliss, Vermuelen, McCoy etc will show their faces from time to time to help the kids (source - know someone very closely involved).



Besides, why should they help (Serious question)?

Once a person retires from work, do they use their money, their skills to help people who replaced them or are they off enjoying retirement?
Bayliss is very actively involved.
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Cheers, I've also heard Ian Newton from my town helped him too.
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This is an interesting debate, so we are judging the riders based on some positive or negative impact they have made upon the sport? Is that the hypothesis? Ok, so something like say a ledger, on one side, good stuff, on the other negative stuff. Can we include stuff done during the riderís racing career that has damaged the sport? Lets start by listing the riders that have damaged the sport based on their influence then, ok, what name should we come up with first? Wait wait, I got it, 1. Bradley Smith... No? Not the first name you thought of?
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Puig went beyond that.
Do go on . . .
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