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October 18th, 2018, 02:36 AM   #291
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I'm going to jump the gun a bit here for next year in terms of who I really would like to see up their standard and make their team mate suffer in the standings.
On the downside of the HRC garage we have Lorenzo, yes a good rider but he's like an egg thats had the contents removed as soon as something goes a bit iffy, Marc will surely bury him next year especially as we are seeing more wet races.
Much as I like Petrux he's a bit thick when it comes to race management, always chews his tyres up, so no threat to Dovi. I'd love Dovi to win a championship, he is a genuine nice guy who has at last developed the ability to stick the stiletto in when required.
Maverick, he needs to keep stum and not talk to Rossi's trappist monk, in 2019 he should make Rossi look like mid field rider like the Asparagus boys.


Best of the rest, Crutchlow, Zarco and Miller. I would like to see Miguel Olivera start off well, I like him as i can't stand the VR46 team.
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I'm going to jump the gun a bit here for next year in terms of who I really would like to see up their standard and make their team mate suffer in the standings.
On the downside of the HRC garage we have Lorenzo, yes a good rider but he's like an egg thats had the contents removed as soon as something goes a bit iffy, Marc will surely bury him next year especially as we are seeing more wet races.
Much as I like Petrux he's a bit thick when it comes to race management, always chews his tyres up, so no threat to Dovi. I'd love Dovi to win a championship, he is a genuine nice guy who has at last developed the ability to stick the stiletto in when required.
Lorenzo can be extremely quick especially on a quick bike like he has this season, but even he (and Dovi) struggle to beat Marc who can usually override the Honda and take the win...

Even if Jorge takes to the Honda quickly (which I dont think he will), I dont see it being any easier for him to beat Marc or Dovi than it is now, probably harder and thats on a good day. I see next season being much like this year with Marc and Dovi the ones to beat. It would be great to see the Yamaha's back in the mix to make things more interesting, would love to see Maverick quick on the bike again.
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Best of the rest, Crutchlow, Zarco and Miller. I would like to see Miguel Olivera start off well, I like him as i can't stand the VR46 team.

I agree with you on this very much. Don't want to disregard those young up coming Italian riders. But being associated with vr46 academy, is rossi living vicariously through those riders. This is all going back to PI 2015, when he showed his true color. Hard to cheer for those riders with this type of stigma behind them.
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Lorenzo can be extremely quick especially on a quick bike like he has this season, but even he (and Dovi) struggle to beat Marc who can usually override the Honda and take the win...

Even if Jorge takes to the Honda quickly (which I dont think he will), I dont see it being any easier for him to beat Marc or Dovi than it is now, probably harder and thats on a good day. I see next season being much like this year with Marc and Dovi the ones to beat. It would be great to see the Yamaha's back in the mix to make things more interesting, would love to see Maverick quick on the bike again.
Yokohama sends a suttle shot across the bow to Lorenzo about what to expect at Honda.

Yokoyama revealed that one of his main concerns in terms of making the Lorenzo-Honda partnership a success is the RCV's lack of stability.
"Maybe one of the things that I'm a little worried he would struggle with is the stability of the bike. I think you can see from TV that the Honda bike is many times shaking, dancing, jumping," he said.
"Probably, he's not the guy who likes to fight with the unstable bike and from our side I guess we need to make the bike a little more stable than we have now. But also from his side, maybe he needs to adapt to a little more unstable bike.
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Yokohama sends a suttle shot across the bow to Lorenzo about what to expect at Honda.

Yokoyama revealed that one of his main concerns in terms of making the Lorenzo-Honda partnership a success is the RCV's lack of stability.
"Maybe one of the things that I'm a little worried he would struggle with is the stability of the bike. I think you can see from TV that the Honda bike is many times shaking, dancing, jumping," he said.
"Probably, he's not the guy who likes to fight with the unstable bike and from our side I guess we need to make the bike a little more stable than we have now. But also from his side, maybe he needs to adapt to a little more unstable bike.
In the closing laps of the last race you could see Marcs front tyre skidding in on the fast direction changes... If thats the type of knife edge man handling it takes for the Honda to beat the Ducati I think Jorge is going to feel like he did in his early days at Ducati. I have no doubt he will work the Honda out over time but I doubt it will be a quick process. If Lorenzo crashes as much as Cal does on the RCV in an effort to find its limits and keep up with Marc I see his confidence taking a huge dive.

Like a previous post mentioned, I doubt Honda will be going to the same lengths as Ducati for Jorge, let alone if its in detriment to the continued success of their golden goose.
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I agree with you on this very much. Don't want to disregard those young up coming Italian riders. But being associated with vr46 academy, is rossi living vicariously through those riders. This is all going back to PI 2015, when he showed his true color. Hard to cheer for those riders with this type of stigma behind them.
I don't know if anyone can confirm it, (HolyPuck?) but a friend who has a cousin who lives just outside Tavullia(sp) near Rossi's ranch/track has said that there is a little trouble with some of the riders locally, he has the impression that they are all arrogant about it.
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I agree with you on this very much. Don't want to disregard those young up coming Italian riders. But being associated with vr46 academy, is rossi living vicariously through those riders. This is all going back to PI 2015, when he showed his true color. Hard to cheer for those riders with this type of stigma behind them.
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I don't know if anyone can confirm it, (HolyPuck?) but a friend who has a cousin who lives just outside Tavullia(sp) near Rossi's ranch/track has said that there is a little trouble with some of the riders locally, he has the impression that they are all arrogant about it.

I don't think it's fair to tar these youngsters with the same brush. They are not Valentino. They are young sportsman taking up an amazing opportunity to develop their skills and further careers. Each rider should be ranked on their own merit. What you suggest is Rossi hating on a stupid level. If he had a child, would you hate that child just because of him?
Petty.
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I don't think it's fair to tar these youngsters with the same brush. They are not Valentino. They are young sportsman taking up an amazing opportunity to develop their skills and further careers. Each rider should be ranked on their own merit. What you suggest is Rossi hating on a stupid level. If he had a child, would you hate that child just because of him?
Petty.

I'm looking at it from a leery point of view and not being petty about it. Not accusing the young up coming riders of doing rossi dirty work. But him using them in a deceptive manner to drive his agenda. An open mind I will keep but, we know rossi and his people mindset. Sure the young men are there to achieve a skill set. But they are just that young, and most naive.
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I'm looking at it from a leery point of view and not being petty about it. Not accusing the young up coming riders of doing rossi dirty work. But him using them in a deceptive manner to drive his agenda. An open mind I will keep but, we know rossi and his people mindset. Sure the young men are there to achieve a skill set. But they are just that young, and most naive.
And his agenda would be to win a World Championship as team principle of VR46 race team, right?

Or is there something else you mean by this?
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And his agenda would be to win a World Championship as team principle of VR46 race team, right?

Or is there something else you mean by this?
He will be looking for that one rider, he believes may be able to breaks Marc's record. And if he does find that young Italian rider, and succeed. His name will forever be attached to that young rider. Where the glory will be more on him and less on the rider.
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