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June 6th, 2018, 06:41 AM   #191
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Regardless of how Dovi and Petrux perform over the next two years, it is pretty much a given now that Ducati isn’t going to be the top destination for any “Aliens” planning to jump ship in the near future.
There's a lot who have tried, that's for sure.
I honestly do think that Marc could win a title on it. Maybe not first season though.
It's like the Duc' is Excalibur and whoever can make it work is the rightful king of Ducati and heir to Casey's throne.
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June 6th, 2018, 03:39 PM   #192
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Happy Syahrin re-signed.

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Bradley Smith, retirement?

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I thought rather than the fragmented discussion for silly season that's going on we could have one thread

Off the top of my head. Will update when needed.

Factory teams
Movistar Yamaha
Valentino Rossi Yamaha M1 2020
Maverick Viñales Yamaha M1 2020

Repsol Honda
Marc Márquez Honda RC213V 2020
Jorge Lorenzo Honda RC213V 2020

Ecstar Suzuki
Alex Rins Suzuki GSX-RR 2020
Joan Mir? Suzuki GSX-RR 2020?

Gresini Aprilia
Aleix Espargaro Aprilia RS-GP 2020
Andrea Iannone? Aprilia RS-GP 2020?

KTM Factory
Johann Zarco KTM RC16 2020
Pol Espargaro KTM RC16 2020

Ducati Team
Andrea Dovizioso Ducati GP19 2020
Danilo Petrucci Ducati GP19 2019

Independent Teams
Pramac Ducati
Pecco Bagnaia Ducati GP19? 2020
Jack Miller Ducati GP19 2019

LCR Honda
Cal Crutchlow Honda RC213V 2019
Takaaki Nakagami? Honda RC213V 2019?

Tech3 KTM
Miguel Oliveira KTM RC16 2019
Hafizh Syahrin KTM RC16 2019

Marc VDS?
Franco Morbidelli? Honda RC213V 2019
Alex Márquez? Honda RC213V ?


Angel Nieto Team/Sepang-Petronas
Franco Morbidelli? Yamaha M1
Dani Pedrosa/Andrea Iannone? Yamaha M1


Avintia Ducati
Xavier Simeon Ducati GP17? 2019
Tito Rabat? Ducati GP18
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Karel Abraham? Wsbk?

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June 10th, 2018, 04:02 PM   #195
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For what it’s worth, IMHO. Ducati made the right decision in keeping Petrucci (1yr contract?). With the new fixed wings and anti doping they will need to focus on development which I one of his strengths. It's the reason Aprilia had a contract on the table for him, unfortunately with Iannone and Espargaro they will struggle with development for the next 2 years. While I would have liked seeing Jack move to Ducati leaving him at Pramac isn't bad. The mistake of not preloading the front suspension last race is not a mistake the top teams/riders would have made. Jack trys everything the team suggests and has surely been taking note of the results. His commentary after the crash "It won't happen again" may point to a more decisive setup direction by him.
The technical changes coming next year may disadvantage KTM the least, and with their new engine it would be great to see Zarco hanging off the end of the leading pack.
While I agree Suzuki suck for not going after Lorenzo, keeping Rins was a right decision. It's a big ask to keep the bike going in the right direction with such an inexperienced teammate, but I think he's up to it.
The big question with Lorenzo and HRC... I don't know. Lorenzo looks like he has changed his style to try to accommodate the Ducati somewhat, maybe the success or lack of it for the rest of the year may be some indication. At least he should be faster than Pedro which would put him in podium contention. If they want to change the bike into a high corner speed bike they can, it's been done before (rumors Marquez leaving after 2020, Lorenzo riding out his career there).
Out of the new guys I like is Morbidelli, baring last weeks tyre fiasco he seems to be coming up to speed nicely.
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For what it’s worth, IMHO. Ducati made the right decision in keeping Petrucci (1yr contract?). With the new fixed wings and anti doping they will need to focus on development which I one of his strengths. It's the reason Aprilia had a contract on the table for him, unfortunately with Iannone and Espargaro they will struggle with development for the next 2 years. While I would have liked seeing Jack move to Ducati leaving him at Pramac isn't bad. The mistake of not preloading the front suspension last race is not on a mistake the top teams/riders would have made. Jack trys everything the team suggests and has surely been taking note of the results. His commentary after the crash "It won't happen again" may point to a more decisive setup direction by him.
The technical changes coming next year may disadvantage KTM the least, and with their new engine it would be great to see Zarco hanging off the end of the leading pack.
While I agree Suzuki suck for not going after Lorenzo, keeping Rins was a right decision. It's a big ask to keep the bike going in the right direction with such an inexperienced teammate, but I think he's up to it.
The big question with Lorenzo and HRC... I don't know. Lorenzo looks like he has changed his style to try to accommodate the Ducati somewhat, maybe the success or lack of it for the rest of the year may be some indication. At least he should be faster than Pedro which would put him in podium contention. If they want to change the bike into a high corner speed bike they can, it's been done before (rumors Marquez leaving after 2020, Lorenzo riding out his career there).
Out of the new guys I like Morbidelli, baring last weeks tyre fiasco he seems to be coming up to speed nicely.
Sure, MM is acutely aware of history as he has demonstrated on many occasions, and I suspect will want to win titles for multiple marques, although he has a competing historical agenda of winning more titles than Valentino I strongly suspect as well; I guess there is a fair chance he will have at least equalled him by the end of 2020. It would have to be to Ducati though, I don't see any way he goes to Yamaha if Valentino is in a role of any prominence there.

I completely agree that if Honda want to build a cornerspeed bike they can.
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June 10th, 2018, 06:32 PM   #197
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Karel Abraham? Wsbk?

If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.
Is Abraham using an Avintia licence or his own team licence whilst riding for Avintia (ie. did he sell his team's licence?).

Wondering as if the licence is his then there is a spot there, if the licence is Avintia's then no spot exists
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It would have to be to Ducati though,
It will be tough for him to win if Jack is there.
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Things are so odd on the Lorenzo thing ...... Im starting to wonder if he will be the new HRC rider.

What a team that would be!
Wow ... Im so pshycologicic !!!
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For what it’s worth, IMHO. Ducati made the right decision in keeping Petrucci (1yr contract?). With the new fixed wings and anti doping they will need to focus on development which I one of his strengths. It's the reason Aprilia had a contract on the table for him, unfortunately with Iannone and Espargaro they will struggle with development for the next 2 years. While I would have liked seeing Jack move to Ducati leaving him at Pramac isn't bad. The mistake of not preloading the front suspension last race is not a mistake the top teams/riders would have made. Jack trys everything the team suggests and has surely been taking note of the results. His commentary after the crash "It won't happen again" may point to a more decisive setup direction by him.
The technical changes coming next year may disadvantage KTM the least, and with their new engine it would be great to see Zarco hanging off the end of the leading pack.
While I agree Suzuki suck for not going after Lorenzo, keeping Rins was a right decision. It's a big ask to keep the bike going in the right direction with such an inexperienced teammate, but I think he's up to it.
The big question with Lorenzo and HRC... I don't know. Lorenzo looks like he has changed his style to try to accommodate the Ducati somewhat, maybe the success or lack of it for the rest of the year may be some indication. At least he should be faster than Pedro which would put him in podium contention. If they want to change the bike into a high corner speed bike they can, it's been done before (rumors Marquez leaving after 2020, Lorenzo riding out his career there).
Out of the new guys I like is Morbidelli, baring last weeks tyre fiasco he seems to be coming up to speed nicely.
The attention and focus on Lorenzo at the next race, to see if the last was a fluke, will be intense.
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