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June 5th, 2018, 02:06 PM   #171
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So where does this put Mir?

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Being young is overrated.

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Can we bring back the "Factory 2/Open Class" category for Suzuki into parc ferme? They're obviously never going to amount to anything.

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Can we start allowing Suzuki into parc ferme as a satellite junior team? They're obviously never going to amount to anything.

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I have to highly disagree.

Suzuki's policy is to hire young guns and turn them into top riders, like they did with Vinales. While this may seem limitating in terms of bike developing, the team works on testing and developing with Guintoli which seems to be good enough for it as of now.

It is undeniable that the bike has improved esponentially this year.

Also I personally think Davide Brivio is a great manager and I think he'll be able to bring the whole team to a constant podium-aiming level in a few years.

Last but not least, Mir is one of the most interesting prospects as of now.

Suzuki has ALL the ingredients, they only need to handle them correctly.

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I have to highly disagree.

Suzuki's policy is to hire young guns and turn them into top riders, like they did with Vinales. While this may seem limitating in terms of bike developing, the team works on testing and developing with Guintoli which seems to be good enough for it as of now.

It is undeniable that the bike has improved esponentially this year.

Also I personally think Davide Brivio is a great manager and I think he'll be able to bring the whole team to a constant podium-aiming level in a few years.

Last but not least, Mir is one of the most interesting prospects as of now.

Suzuki has ALL the ingredients, they only need to handle them correctly.
Suzuki's "policy" is to be mediocre.

Viņalez wasn't turned into a top rider, he was offered a seat because one shockingly became available at factory Yamaha. A seat vacated by their reigning champion no less. Viņalez would have still been a 1 race winner, no way he wins the other 3 races whilst he would have been competing on a Suzuki against Lorenzo on an M1. Name these other riders that Suzuki have groomed into a top riders?

Suzuki have never been committed to GP. They sign these young riders because they don't cost much. Why didn’t they court Lorenzo? HRC snatched him up for a quarter what Ducati paid him. Suzuki could have made him promises when he was desperate, for a bike, GSXRR, that is presumably the next best thing to an M1, his bread and 'butter'.

Suzuki improved? All I've been hearing from Yamaha riders is that their bike is shit. Maybe that's your Suzuki improvement. Suzuki will never amount to anything whilst the HRCs and Yamaha's of GP still have their foot on throat of parity. Suzuki can't even beat Ducati FFS.

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Let’s see what suzuki does next year with zero concessions and two young guys who have less Motogp miles between them than the guy they fired.
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Suzuki's "policy" is to be mediocre.

Viņalez wasn't turned into a top rider, he was offered a seat because one shockingly became available at factory Yamaha. A seat vacated by their reigning champion no less. Viņalez would have still been a 1 race winner, no way he wins the other 3 races whilst he would have been competing on a Suzuki against Lorenzo on an M1. Name these other riders that Suzuki have groomed into a top riders?

Suzuki have never been committed to GP. They sign these young riders because they don't cost much. Why didn’t they court Lorenzo? HRC snatched him up for a quarter what Ducati paid him. Suzuki could have made him promises when he was desperate, for a bike, GSXRR, that is presumably the next best thing to an M1, his bread and 'butter'.

Suzuki improved? All I've been hearing from Yamaha riders is that their bike is shit. Maybe that's your Suzuki improvement. Suzuki will never amount to anything whilst the HRCs and Yamaha's of GP still have their foot on throat of parity. Suzuki can't even beat Ducati FFS.
Cruel, but fair.
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Suzuki's "policy" is to be mediocre.

Viņalez wasn't turned into a top rider, he was offered a seat because one shockingly became available at factory Yamaha. A seat vacated by their reigning champion no less. Viņalez would have still been a 1 race winner, no way he wins the other 3 races whilst he would have been competing on a Suzuki against Lorenzo on an M1. Name these other riders that Suzuki have groomed into a top riders?

Suzuki have never been committed to GP. They sign these young riders because they don't cost much. Why didn’t they court Lorenzo? HRC snatched him up for a quarter what Ducati paid him. Suzuki could have made him promises when he was desperate, for a bike, GSXRR, that is presumably the next best thing to an M1, his bread and 'butter'.

Suzuki improved? All I've been hearing from Yamaha riders is that their bike is shit. Maybe that's your Suzuki improvement. Suzuki will never amount to anything whilst the HRCs and Yamaha's of GP still have their foot on throat of parity. Suzuki can't even beat Ducati FFS.
There's a difference between policy and actual performance.
I think Holy Puck is right in that this is their policy/intention, but I think that you are correct in how things have turned out.

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