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May 25th, 2018, 02:21 AM   #51
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I can find an article that actually exists about the earth being flat.
Does it have credibility because it exists?
Again you avoid the point. The article was a minor side issue, to which I gave some credibility obviously partly because it agrees with my view of events, and as I said if Rossi did instruct Uccio to tell MM to fuck off then he is a hypocrite imo, and if Yamaha are not annoyed with Uccio’s behaviour as someone not a member of the Yamaha factory racing team as far as I am aware then they should be.

Your fellow partisan suggested their relations will always be strained because of 2015; MM seems quite prepared to move on as far as I can tell despite being the rider taken out by a deliberate illegal move, he has just gone on with the business of winning more world championships, so if you and your fellow partisan are to justify Rossi continuing to have the attitude he apparently has you are implicitly accepting his +/- Uccio’s version of events, for which there is no evidence, particularly in regard to the PI conspiracy theory whoever might be the original author of that theory.

I am actually fairly familiar with standards of evidence as it happens, not that I necessarily always apply them posting on an Internet fan forum, but it is the apparent belief of people such as you that only others are biased with which I take issue.
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Again you avoid the point. The article was a minor side issue, to which I gave some credibility obviously partly because it agrees with my view of events, and as I said if Rossi did instruct Uccio to tell MM to fuck off then he is a hypocrite imo, and if Yamaha are not annoyed with Uccio’s behaviour as someone not a member of the Yamaha factory racing team as far as I am aware then they should be.

Your fellow partisan suggested their relations will always be strained because of 2015; MM seems quite prepared to move on as far as I can tell despite being the rider taken out by a deliberate illegal move, he has just gone on with the business of winning more world championships, so if you and your fellow partisan are to justify Rossi continuing to have the attitude he apparently has you are implicitly accepting his +/- Uccio’s version of events, for which there is no evidence, particularly in regard to the PI conspiracy theory whoever might be the original author of that theory.

I am actually fairly familiar with standards of evidence as it happens, not that I necessarily always apply them posting on an Internet fan forum, but it is the apparent belief of people such as you that only others are biased with which I take issue.
Let me kick you in the nuts in front of your friends and see how nice they are to me, with or without your permission.
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May 25th, 2018, 03:17 AM   #53
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Let me kick you in the nuts in front of your friends and see how nice they are to me, with or without your permission.
And yet again you avoid the point.

Rossi has done worse to MM, and to Stoner, without any hangers on carrying on like Uccio.

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May 25th, 2018, 03:32 AM   #54
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Let me kick you in the nuts in front of your friends and see how nice they are to me, with or without your permission.
Terrible analogy.
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And yet again you avoid the point.

Rossi has done worse to MM, and to Stoner, without any hangers on carrying on like Uccio.
What's the point?

That you tried to build up a story of a "Widely reported" incident of Uccio getting scolded by Yamaha, which I promptly tore down and you have since steadily backpedaled from?

Or that someone on the forum said Uccio might have gotten permission from Rossi to stand up to Marquez which is suddenly the gospel truth?

Or that a guy standing up for his childhood friend in front of an inconsiderate competitor is somehow a villain now?

Go find a new hobby, Mitchell. Trolling doesn't work for you.
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What's the point?

That you tried to build up a story of a "Widely reported" incident of Uccio getting scolded by Yamaha, which I promptly tore down and you have since steadily backpedaled from?

Or that someone on the forum said Uccio might have gotten permission from Rossi to stand up to Marquez which is suddenly the gospel truth?

Or that a guy standing up for his childhood friend in front of an inconsiderate competitor is somehow a villain now?

Go find a new hobby, Mitchell. Trolling doesn't work for you.
Different standards applying to Rossi and/or his hangers on than to others is my entire point which you have never and are incapable of refuting, and the reason for my attitude to Rossi rather than any dispute with his quality as a rider in his pomp or his achievements, as I have explained at tiresome length, although not as tiresome as your inevitable reversion to argumentum ad hominem when you have nothing else, which seems to be quite often.
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We can apply the same standards to Rossi after he attempts to mow down half the field over one weekend.
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I thought boppers liked hard racing?

The thing that continue to get overlooked is the speed difference between Marquez and everyone else and more importantly that there was only one dry line on the track. It was always going to cause some touching and what Rossi experienced was just some touching. He has hit riders far harder than what happened in Argentina.
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We can apply the same standards to Rossi after he attempts to mow down half the field over one weekend.
You pivot from the ad hominem logical fallacy to the red herring fallacy.

The score is Rossi has taken out MM twice, once by an absolutely deliberate move rather than by any error; some say the other incident was deliberate as well, which I don't contend myself, but the evidence for it being so is at least compelling as for Rossi's (and Uccio's) lunatic conspiracy theory regarding PI 2015, from which they do not resile. In the case of both Argentinian incidents the rider taken out could have avoided crashing out of the respective races by accepting the inevitable ie that they were being passed by a much faster rider.

Why, btw, does Mr 9/7 titles Rossi at the age of 39 require the presence of a childhood friend in his garage to reprove competitors who offend him by hitting them over the head with his handbag?. MM who is currently 25 seems to be capable of acting on his own behalf, as was Stoner at Jerez 2011 when he was also 25. I strongly suspect Stoner's wife was in the garage at Jerez, but neither he nor she seemed to perceive any need for any involvement from her.
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I thought boppers liked hard racing?

The thing that continue to get overlooked is the speed difference between Marquez and everyone else and more importantly that there was only one dry line on the track. It was always going to cause some touching and what Rossi experienced was just some touching. He has hit riders far harder than what happened in Argentina.
The other thing that is overlooked (because of the single incident focus) is the multiple incidents leading up to that one.
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