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May 22nd, 2018, 11:51 AM   #41
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My instincts say that Mir will be a Honda mistake, like Miller, or over rated like Vinales.
Perhaps. There hasn't really been a superior choice with Zarco and Dovi out of the picture. And who knows? He might surprise everybody. I'd love to know who at Repsol chose him. Poochey has been pretty good at picking riders over the years.
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Hmmm. Well, If BradB goes to Moto2, then I don't see why JoanM should skip Moto2. Binder is Better. I thought everyone learned the lesson with Miller and how that screwed-up that kid's career, and almost crippled him for life.

MotoGP is WAY TOO FAR a leap from Moto3. You have stupid arguments at track-day level, when 250s say they are faster in the middle of the corner, meanwhile liter bikes still lap 8 seconds faster. Riding a MotoGP bike is Mars compared to Venus Moto3.
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Hmmm. Well, If BradB goes to Moto2, then I don't see why JoanM should skip Moto2. Binder is Better. I thought everyone learned the lesson with Miller and how that screwed-up that kid's career, and almost crippled him for life.

MotoGP is WAY TOO FAR a leap from Moto3. You have stupid arguments at track-day level, when 250s say they are faster in the middle of the corner, meanwhile liter bikes still lap 8 seconds faster. Riding a MotoGP bike is Mars compared to Venus Moto3.
Mir is in Moto 2 and just podiumed this weekend. He's also currently ahead of Binder in the standings.
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Mir is in Moto 2 and just podiumed this weekend. He's also currently ahead of Binder in the standings.
Well, good. Then I have had too much to smoke or drink and will skip posting for the next hour or so.
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You sure are quick to point out mistakes, aren't you?
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I am not sure either of them have demonstrated they should move up. And Mir just showed-up. Signing a GP contract is premature in my opinion. I don't think Rins demonstrated that he belongs in MotoGP, either. But, I am really, really picky.

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As I mentioned before, Mir trains with litrebikes which, while nowhere as fast as motogp bikes, are faster than Moto2 bikes and give him the sense of weight one can expect in MotoGP.

He has also adapted to Moto2 way quicker than BradB and all the rest of the recent Moto3 recruits.

But the main push for this is coming from his management. Since Motogp contracts are normally for 2 years, if he doesn’t sign now, he has to ride in Moto2 for 3 years and they think it’s too long.
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Synn - any vids of Mir on the litrebikes? It's always cool to watch them on proddy bikes.
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Couldn’t find any, just news reports on the same.
But yes, I love watching racers ride the hell out of production machines.
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I'm not really saying Pedrosa is a phenom, I'm only saying he is a really, really good rider who IMHO gets flak too often. He is penalized by his body (1.58m...I was taller than that when I was 11 y/o and I ain't a big dude) and by the many injuries he sustained. I also reckon he was quite unlucky. Yes, he never delivered a premier class title but I still think he's had one heck of a career.

Marquez is probably the most talented rider to ever turn his leg over a motorcycle, at least in Grand Prix racing, so I wouldn't compare the two too much.
Whilst i agree with you and McZee in post #23 i still think Pedrosa has been incredibly fortunate to stay on that bike for 13 straight seasons without delivering at least one title,i can't think of any other rider who would be given that long on a top bike where excuses are continually made for him about his lack of bodyweight and being unsuited for the class because of it..
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any vids of Mir on the litrebikes? It's always cool to watch them on proddy bikes.
Here you go, mate. Knee down and everything, although I think it's a bit more than a litre bike......

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As I mentioned before, Mir trains with litrebikes which, while nowhere as fast as motogp bikes, are faster than Moto2 bikes and give him the sense of weight one can expect in MotoGP.

He has also adapted to Moto2 way quicker than BradB and all the rest of the recent Moto3 recruits.

But the main push for this is coming from his management. Since Motogp contracts are normally for 2 years, if he doesnít sign now, he has to ride in Moto2 for 3 years and they think itís too long.
This guy has one third place and is seventh in the standings, and some of you think he is ready for MotoGP? That's not realistic. Binder is ninth and Mir is seventh. Big deal.

How do we know more of these people don't ride liter bikes? While I think that it is nice that he rides a bigger bike, it is not racing a MotoGP bike. WSBK riders take time to adjust to MotoGP bikes. Look at all the wildcard failures over the years. Moto2 may prepare riders for MotoGP, Moto3 does not. I would want to see how he handles this year before signing him. Of course, his agent wants him signed - NOW. What the heck, it ain't his money, nor his body.

By-the-way, I did a track day with Stefan Bradl at Laguna Seca before his first ride there in MotoGP. He was riding a Fireblade, of course. So was I. He finished his career on a liter bike (Fireblade). I am not sure what good it did him.
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