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May 15th, 2018, 10:52 PM   #71
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I liked Villopoto more than I liked Dungey. I mentioned Dungey in order to bring an example to help anyone reading getting a better idea of what I was saying

However since you mentioned it and since I like American motocross almost as much as I like MotoGP I'll be going OT and give you my opinion.

Talent, speed and technique wise there's no comparison. RV > RD and honestly that's not debatable IMHO.

I only reckon Dungey comes off as a more chilled dude, which brings us back to the example I made above about sponsors loving him. Dungey had that "I'm just a nice kid" appeal, nothing could touch him like you say.

RV wasn't more emotional, he was simply rawer. Kinda like Casey.

We are anyways talking about two amazing sportsmen, I'd like to underline that.
And as Johnny would be the first to admit ..... isnt RV Caseys buddy.
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And as Johnny would be the first to admit ..... isnt RV Caseys buddy.

Yup. They even go fishing together from time to time even tho I know RV is more keen on hunting.
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Agreed, Horhay just seemed that bit too tentative in wet and especially mixed/changeable conditions after that.
I think Forcada said as much at some point.
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Greatest ride if all time from the greatest rider of all time...

There have been many great performances in GP, Nicky in 145 degree heat at LS in 06, Toni Elias Estoril 06 (granted not the GOATR), Rossi Catalunya 09, Stoner Philip Island 20XX, Lorenzo Valencia 2015 (granted not the GOATR), Marquez COTA 20XX, we could put several performances by Rainey, Lawson, King Roberts, Spencer, etc.; but for me I'd have to say Nicky Hayden Laguna Seca 2005 was one of the greatest performances all around, it was so good, they even made a movie just about this race: The Doctor, The Tornado, & The Kentucky Kid. This was the return of GP back to Laguna Seca. Think of the pressure. Home GP for the Americans, and a high expectation for them to perform, meant the pressure was massive. Riders coming though the back isn't the only measure of a great performance, but a dominant performance is as noteworthy as any, especially considering Nicky topped all four practices and pole position, and won the race from pole, against a field and package that was nearing the height of its development cycle (which I think was capped in 06, as the greatest parity in GP ever). So I think it was an exceptionally fantastic performance.

Edit to add: Something extremely rare happened in this race, which I'd like to point out, Collin Edwards passed Rossi. A real rare moment.



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How many “I like Rossi” threads do we need?
4 posts into the thread and you tried to derail it. Oh well, so much for the “ignore” button, perhaps it doesn’t work properly.

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More to the point...why is synn starting a racing thread where he hasn't abused anyone yet??...perhaps he has turned over a new leaf??
Good to see you haven’t left us Pye. After the above post I scrolled through a few pages expecting to find another torpedoed thread, I’m glad it wasn’t derailed 5 posts in, hope burns eternal, but it looks like this thread has stayed fairly on point. Kudos to Synn for not reacting to Kesh’s trolling attempt (who said he had put Synn on “ignore” btw). Maybe in this way we can have most of the threads moving along smoothly. There is a race this weekend. Fingers crossed.

Hey Pye, maybe as a peace offering to the universal race gods for not letting this thread CRASH, we could include one of Cuntslows race wins on this thread?

Nah, forget it, I’m not that hopeful about the future of this forum. ,

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I think Synn tried to make a troll thread and instead the posters brought up some brilliant efforts from riders.
Maybe, but at least Synn didn’t react, perhaps as Pye says, a start to a better way? Baby steps, you never know, it may all go to shit just as fast. Shit and fast, that reminds me of Brno 2014.

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Dubs,

May have been a troll but it is also a genuine race thread

I treat all threads as genuine until they turn to shit
Yeah, but Dubs was right in pointing out the trolling attempts, light helps make things clear, and kudos to synn for not biting.

Speaking of fast, its easy to talk about CS at PI, but I’d like to remember his 2011 performance at Brno. Its memorable to me also because Marco Simonchelli podiumed there, and I felt that it was a moment where he started to reconsider his approach to racing. Nothing like a little success to make you re-think what works and what doesn’t. The performance was significant because the Hondas were working there, and Stoner was the best of the Honda riders. This actually reminds me of a great performance by Pedrosa too, it was a two way battle (can’t remember year at the moment) but I do remember Pedros ending Marc’s win streak at Brno in 2014. Stoner came out on top that day, and considering it was on his way to his title winning season, it has to rank up there as one of the great performances.


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Excellent answer. Also, any Garry McCoy race
You actually might consider this a trolling post, but Dani Pedrosa's performance at Brno in 2012 is one of the best. Granted, he will never ever been considered in a conversation of Greatest Riders of All Time, but I'm going to give him props for his performance in this race. (Before Arrabi calls me on it, at the time, i was reluctant to give Pedro credit).

Check out this last lap!

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Hey Dip Shit, when I said you have a lot of reading to do & videos to watch to catch up.
Dude, chill out man. Rossi's PI performance is actually cited as one of his best races.

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Picking a video with goat boy on the best bike in the world at the time, with a pair of Saturday night specials. It is simply not going to impress us old timers. Yeah we know about the penalty he got in that race & the gap at the end of the race. But best bike in the world with a pair of Saturday night specials. Marques ride in Argentina was more impressive! Spec tires, spec ECU and a heck more talented riders to compete against. It was your god not conceding the racing line and fucking up that race. Dumbass.....
Ok, just as a point of record, they were called Saturday 'Night' Specials (not Scotty Beamed Specials) because they were normally made Saturday after data was collected from Friday and Saturday, then that evening thrown into the back of a truck and 'driven' over-night to a Euro venue. The fly-away rounds were not subject to SNS because of this thing called an ocean. Haha, nah man, I'm just messing with you, but really, it doesn't apply. Now I will say this thought, Michelin did have a tier system, and if anything you could argue VR had the top tier tires, though other top tier riders would have access to these as well (Michelin would be insane to just make enough for VR and then ship them off to Asia).
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4 posts into the thread and you’ve done your part to derail it. Oh well, so much for the “ignore” button, perhaps it doesn’t work properly.
This is the "no troll" pledge, apparently.

Klog, klog, klog.
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Clogity clog .....
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