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May 15th, 2018, 01:24 PM   #81
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Does make the seasons more interesting though
It doesn't make it more interesting for me. I'm a fan of riding talent and the engineering.

Limiting the testing doesn't do anything except make the bikes worse. It's a bullshit fake limitation thrown in there, probably by Honda, to fuck with other companies so they can't compete. I hate it. Same with spec tires. Fuck that. Let em run whatever they want.

Let's see who wins if we fuck with the tires. Bullshit. It's not a better show, it's bullshit.

Ya, you have to have limitations so the guy with the most money doesn't win everything, so a spec ECU or other standard items are inevitable but it goes too far.

Let's get some racers on hot bikes and get out there, not some faked up crap with 'a great show' and guaranteed no hurt feelings and everyone gets to wave their favourite flag!!

What's next? We've already got 'Top Non Factory Guy' when do we start having participation trophies?!?!!
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It doesn't make it more interesting for me. I'm a fan of riding talent and the engineering.

Limiting the testing doesn't do anything except make the bikes worse. It's a bullshit fake limitation thrown in there, probably by Honda, to fuck with other companies so they can't compete. I hate it. Same with spec tires. Fuck that. Let em run whatever they want.

Let's see who wins if we fuck with the tires. Bullshit. It's not a better show, it's bullshit.

Ya, you have to have limitations so the guy with the most money doesn't win everything, so a spec ECU or other standard items are inevitable but it goes too far.

Let's get some racers on hot bikes and get out there, not some faked up crap with 'a great show' and guaranteed no hurt feelings and everyone gets to wave their favourite flag!!

What's next? We've already got 'Top Non Factory Guy' when do we start having participation trophies?!?!!
Totally agree with this, there's no innovation, I miss the days of mad bikes and cars, even if they were an utter failure.
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May 15th, 2018, 09:31 PM   #83
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They need Furusawa.
And Burgess.
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May 15th, 2018, 10:13 PM   #84
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Also Marquez won back to back titles on a screamer engine with shit electronics and a big bang engine. The kid can adapt to anything.
Without getting into the difference between versions of the RCV and there is some big difference in how Marquez is riding the different bikes IMO. He went from a 125 2 stroke and if not for a stupid decision by him and his team would've won in the championship in his first year on the bike, he then won on his first year in MotoGP. To say that he needs to ride another manufacturer to prove he can adapt is ridiculous, don't forget the rationale behind Rossi's distant 4th in 2013 was that he had to adapt from the Ducati back to the Yamaha. Conveniently forgetting that Marquez had to adapt much more from a moto2 bike.
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Winning breeds confidence, after 2 barren years on the Ducati there had to be a period of rebooting.
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Winning breeds confidence, after 2 barren years on the Ducati there had to be a period of rebooting.
I think you should be rebooting your excuse machine with that one
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May 16th, 2018, 02:42 AM   #87
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And Burgess.
Rossi wasn't the only one who took a serious confidence boost throughout 2011 and 2012.

As much as people say that Rossi lost it, Burgess did not achieve that which he stated he would and could so he was somewhat found as well
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Rossi wasn't the only one who took a serious confidence boost throughout 2011 and 2012.

As much as people say that Rossi lost it, Burgess did not achieve that which he stated he would and could so he was somewhat found as well
I still think that rossi achieved more with Burgess than the new guy.
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I still think that rossi achieved more with Burgess than the new guy.

Absolutely agree although there are some in this and other forums who feel that the new guys has been as successful, but success is measured in results and they are somewhat incomparable
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It doesn't make it more interesting for me. I'm a fan of riding talent and the engineering.

Limiting the testing doesn't do anything except make the bikes worse. It's a bullshit fake limitation thrown in there, probably by Honda, to fuck with other companies so they can't compete. I hate it. Same with spec tires. Fuck that. Let em run whatever they want.

Let's see who wins if we fuck with the tires. Bullshit. It's not a better show, it's bullshit.

Ya, you have to have limitations so the guy with the most money doesn't win everything, so a spec ECU or other standard items are inevitable but it goes too far.

Let's get some racers on hot bikes and get out there, not some faked up crap with 'a great show' and guaranteed no hurt feelings and everyone gets to wave their favourite flag!!

What's next? We've already got 'Top Non Factory Guy' when do we start having participation trophies?!?!!

What they've done to WSBK is what's next. They've done everything but force Rea to ride blindfolded in their attempts to manipulate the championship.
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