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May 12th, 2018, 02:35 AM   #21
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Yes, apparently 39 is not 9 years older than 30 or 14 years older than 25 and there is no change in human physiology over such a time course, and Vinales was jus as competitive when the new construction tire replaced the original tire last season.

The obvious corollary of the argument is that Rossi was greatly inferior to MM when he was the same age, not something I would necessarily argue myself, but who am I to dispute a Rossi fan.
Ha .... whenever I am reminded by old aquaintances " remember when you used to ......" . My reply these days is often "gee I'd shatter if I tried that now. Lol.

My son still doesnt get that at 60 ..... I am on the physical decline. He'l peak between 30 and 40 ..... then I'l remind him as he starts to feel the decline.
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Synn and Dani continue to look over posts on this very forum where Vinales is called by a few posters(myself included) not the rider Yamaha were hoping for or a good replacement for Lorenzo who was much better IMO. In this very thread when talking about the issues posters have said riderS plural. The Zarco is doing so well in a vastly inferior team does IMO say that some of the blame lays with its riders.
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But MV was the first to be "tinkerered with" when he came out and showed that the bike was capable of. I often wonder if that was enough for MV and if he isnt just seeing out his contract cos like all the ithers he is already sick of the BS involved in the team.
I agree I think Vinales will leave at the end of his contract in 2020, or maybe earlier if they leg the pensioner on the other bike still dictate what he should get. I'd like to see him on a Honda or maybe a KTM.
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Synn and Dani continue to look over posts on this very forum where Vinales is called by a few posters(myself included) not the rider Yamaha were hoping for or a good replacement for Lorenzo who was much better IMO. In this very thread when talking about the issues posters have said riderS plural. The Zarco is doing so well in a vastly inferior team does IMO say that some of the blame lays with its riders.
Yeah thats right. Synn was saying MV would be just as good as Lorenzo on the Yam. Guess that went boposites
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Forgotten about his much younger teammate have we?
Don't let facts stand in the way of your beliefs though.
Don't let Zarco's far superior performance using the same electronic on an older iteration of the same bike detract from your belief that Rossi is as good as him. Years from now (tho not many) when Rossi is toddling around in a wheelchair at the retirement home, you'll still be touting his ability to beat the 25 year-olds.
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Don't let Zarco's far superior performance using the same electronic on an older iteration of the same bike detract from your belief that Rossi is as good as him. Years from now (tho not many) when Rossi is toddling around in a wheelchair at the retirement home, you'll still be touting his ability to beat the 25 year-olds.
Still gonna outlap you and your tabla.
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Don't let Zarco's far superior performance using the same electronic on an older iteration of the same bike detract from your belief that Rossi is as good as him. Years from now (tho not many) when Rossi is toddling around in a wheelchair at the retirement home, you'll still be touting his ability to beat the 25 year-olds.
What is really quite ludicrous is that the boppers actually try and compare rossi with the top few riders ...... which he has no place to be compared.
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Don't let Zarco's far superior performance using the same electronic on an older iteration of the same bike detract from your belief that Rossi is as good as him. Years from now (tho not many) when Rossi is toddling around in a wheelchair at the retirement home, you'll still be touting his ability to beat the 25 year-olds.
Lets see where the points stand at the mid season break before prematurely retiring a still competitive age defying 5 x premier class champion.
The fact that on days when him and the bike are in tune with each other he's still running at the front must do your head in.
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Lets see where the points stand at the mid season break before prematurely retiring a still competitive age defying 5 x premier class champion.
The fact that on days when him and the bike are in tune with each other he's still running at the front must do your head in.
He is remarkably good for his age.

Not a good reason for him to be the main focus of the sport in general and Yamaha in particular imo, and even less of a justification for his continuing attempts to destroy the careers or title prospects of younger riders, one of whom is great in comparison with any rider at any age, by off track manipulation.
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Lets see where the points stand at the mid season break before prematurely retiring a still competitive age defying 5 x premier class champion.
The fact that on days when him and the bike are in tune with each other he's still running at the front must do your head in.
Dude, I don't know why you cling to the idea that Rossi doing well would "do my head in". I've stated many times that he does admirably well given the circumstances. The point, in general, from most reasonable people who believe his time is up, is that for a rider on the best seat on one of the two main factory teams, to not be regularly on the podium is just wrong. With a younger, talented rider there would be more competition up at the front, and hence a better show. Does that not sound appealing to you?

Edit: I see Michael has said the same thing only more concise.
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