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May 11th, 2018, 06:47 AM   #11
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I dont think Marquez has been extravagant in his murdering.
He has certainly extravagantly murdered Rossi in terms of race wins during the overlap of their careers.
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May 11th, 2018, 08:45 AM   #12
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Actually not as lop sided as I thought it would be. Still a long season to go though.
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Actually not as lop sided as I thought it would be. Still a long season to go though.
Me too. I was surprised that Rossi had ten. I would guessed like 5 or 6. Of course, I am always surprised how many points VR accumulates by the end of the year. It is odd. Colin Edwards use to be good at getting points without doing much.
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Actually not as lop sided as I thought it would be. Still a long season to go though.
How many of those are due to riders sitting their bike up as he barged past/ took a short cut/ deliberately slowed on the racing line?
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Actually not as lop sided as I thought it would be. Still a long season to go though.
Are you sure on those stats. ? Doesnt count all the times rossi "was robbed" does it?
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Big thing that video shows is how the people involved make the interpretation different.

Marquez v Luthi.
Luthi is the rider behind and as we saw recently in this and other forums ........ is not the onus on the passing rider to pass with safety and ensure that they have the room etc? Is that not what some people said of argentina?

Other incidents (Marquez v Lorenzo) the complains seems to be about a passing rider failing to pass with safety?

Marquez v Espargaro - somewhat understandable due to the slight moment putting Marquez offline and he tries to reclaim position but Espargaro was there doing what racers do ...... seizing the opportunity

Last one ....... well sadly, no rider slows at a yellow flag situation be it practice or race. Don't believe me ........... check race lap times for example and you will see no appreciable drop in laptimes or sector times where a yellow has been displayed. Heck, as they say in Aussie taxi racing - yellow flag (safety car) = catch up flag.

I remember speaking with a rider once about this very aspect (he had raced internationally) and he relayed a story about slowing for a yellow at a race meet in england and subsequently was told that 'we dont slow down for those thing, we just know some shit went down'. FWIW, there was a lap record that was one broken in Australia after a race was red flagged, so flags mean nothing to these riders and I say that as someone who has near been hit by bikes whilst attending riders with races under flag conditions.

Willarott is inexcusable on a few fronts including Marquez, his team and race officials.
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Those videos really show how much rossi has never been as good as Marquez .... and Stoner and Lorenzo and Dovi.
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