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May 10th, 2018, 07:38 AM   #31
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Taking nothing away from the conversation. I made my point about the Zarco several posts ago, straight to the point.

You on the other hand, decided to steer the conversation towards Colin Edwards, who had nothing to do with the topic.

Back to the point though, everyone is up in arms that a guy contracted directly to an independent team with a clear cut contract to ride year old motorcycles (even though he ended up getting more than that), just because Rossi is in the factory team.

Wonder why no one here is upset that Cal and Jack, who are and were contracted to HRC directly and have actually won MotoGP races get second rate equipment (Or in Jack’s case, bottom of the barrel).

What doesn’t suit the forum narrative, gets shoved under the carpet.
I get your point, mate. But I think the difference between the 2 situations is that the Honda is winning with the main factory rider on board, where as the Yam's are adrift and being beaten regularly by a satellite bike.
The reasons for which could be many.
The BT sport interview with Vale had him saying that it was mostly down to the electronics. (The interview itself, whilst short, was worth a watch. Vale came across very well, didn't dwell on the situation with Marc and gave some good insight on how riding in the big class has changed over the years).
To be honest, the reasons for the factory bikes struggling could be as long as your arm. The main difference between the yam riders that I can see is Zarco running softs more often, but if I knew what the problem was I would working in the pits, not throwing my 2 cents worth in on forums.
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May 10th, 2018, 08:09 AM   #32
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Zarco actually finished behind both bikes last year.
He is doing extremely well this year, but we have to see how it turns out. Beating “regularly” is a short term view.

I don’t see why Honda can’t supply their HRC riders with the best equipment and that’s absolutely alright while Yamaha, who clearly has it in their contract to supply year old bikes, and going above and beyond that are somehow the villains.

Isn’t the reason Miller is now at Paramac and Cal sending feelers out exactly the same thing that is making Zarco dissatisfied? Where are the crocodile tears?
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I think you'll find Honda has been criticised for giving VDS shit equipment me the abortion that was their open class bikes.
The difference is Honda hasn't let a Zarco type of rider go to hold onto Pedrosa and they're supplying ther strongest satellite rider with a full factory bike. Zarco despite not having a win yet is riding far more consistently than Crutchlow.

Last year was his rookie season, but he's out qualified the factory bikes a heap over the last few races, he's kicked their ass a couple of times this year, beat them in the last few races last year while getting very little support. Neither Miller or Crutchlow have done that.
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May 10th, 2018, 09:27 AM   #34
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Yes he was, when he was he great new hope. Until he wasn’t.
After that he is paid to not ruffle any feathers.

At this point, Márquez could run over his dick and he would say “please sir, can I have some more”?
Every time you make a post, you show us how little you know of this sport. You have a lot of reading & old videos to review, to catch up to the rest of us here.
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what if Zarco, as of right now, is simply a faster rider than Maverick and Rossi?

I will go on record by saying ZARCO is faster than Maverick and rossi.
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Zarco actually finished behind both bikes last year.
He is doing extremely well this year, but we have to see how it turns out. Beating “regularly” is a short term view.

I don’t see why Honda can’t supply their HRC riders with the best equipment and that’s absolutely alright while Yamaha, who clearly has it in their contract to supply year old bikes, and going above and beyond that are somehow the villains.

Isn’t the reason Miller is now at Paramac and Cal sending feelers out exactly the same thing that is making Zarco dissatisfied? Where are the crocodile tears?
You make good points there, it is a short term view but the frequency with which Zarco has out performed the factory machines is not common place, I think that's a fair a statement.
It could be argued that the satellite Yams are much better than the non full-factory Hondas, which could further compound the issue.
I have heard in the mainstream media overt criticism of the state of the satellite Hondas and I don't think there is a person on this forum who wouldn't acknowledge that they are a bag of nails. You make good points again about Jack and Cal but aside from the relative anomaly of Argentina, they haven't set the world on fire.
It just seems a shame for a rider of Zarco's quality to be taking, what appears on the surface, a backward step.
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