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May 8th, 2018, 11:49 PM   #31
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Also Marquez in the latest press conference stated that he'd like to have Dovi as a team mate, why on earth would he say that if he didn't know that that is a possible scenario for 2019?
Because the opposite is to say 'no, I do not think that the Honda would suit Dovi' and look like a total classless dickhead (reads harsher than intended btw).

To say anything but positive comments lowers him in terms of public perceptions so really, when asked, very few riders would say anything other than 'I would like to have him as a team mate'.

As for knowing it is a possible scenario, well the way I look at it is that there is a contract ending and it is silly season time so you do not need to know what is happening to be able to answer in the affirmative when asked.
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Oh I forgot to mention.

I know for sure that Ducati's interest (as they will replace at least 1 of their 2 current riders) is addressed to Iannone and Cal.

You want my 2 cents? Ducati shall do all they can to keep Dovi and put a young gun, very not-primadonna next to him. Miller would be a good option.

But last time I checked, I didn't work for Ducati
Cuntslow won't go back to Ducati,he's already been there,failed ,and bought himself out of one contract.
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Cuntslow won't go back to Ducati,he's already been there,failed ,and bought himself out of one contract.

Ducati is kinda interested in him tho, this I can assure you.
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I agree with several of the things you wrote, but I reckon we must take into account that we will never know a good 70% of what happens in the teams when the doors are closed. I think something happened in Ducati and I think it's not strictly related to money. It's a team fully composed of Italians after all, we are good at being drama queens

From the recent Italian interviews of Ciabatti, Dall'Igna and Dovi (3 extremely chilled lads), it's very obvious that there is a certain tension in the team. There's been tensions also between Dovi and Jorge but that is natural.

Also Marquez in the latest press conference stated that he'd like to have Dovi as a team mate, why on earth would he say that if he didn't know that that is a possible scenario for 2019?
As I said, possibilities I wonder about are their funding from VW being drastically cut or VW unloading Ducati entirely hence uncertainty about their financial status and consequent lowballing Dovi by their recent standards, and by current Jorge standards in particular.
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Hope they are cashed up as they say

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Ducati is kinda interested in him tho, this I can assure you.
I'll take your word for it as you seem better informed than me,can't imagine why though,he's shown he can't ride it as did Rossi,Dovi has shown he can ride the Ducati and deserves a better deal especially in light of what Lorenzo's getting, so surely they will pay him his due and he will stay?
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I'll take your word for it as you seem better informed than me,can't imagine why though,he's shown he can't ride it as did Rossi,Dovi has shown he can ride the Ducati and deserves a better deal especially in light of what Lorenzo's getting, so surely they will pay him his due and he will stay?

First off, I reckon they would be stupid ............... but .............

Stupid as it sounds, but for me look at Miller's results as a guide.

IMO, Cal and Jack are two very similar riders in a number of ways and Jack has taken to the bike like a (pun intended) Duck to water when you compare his performances on the Honda's.

His times are better, he is more consistent and so forth which shows that the bike is a better ride than is the Honda and whilst Cal does fall, he is no slouch and can produce results. Heck, he has more wins than any non factory team rider out there so yes, he may be a little unlikable to some but there should be little doubt about what he can produce.

My bet is that Cal is playing games to up his dollar value to Honda but trying to have options. Ducati will give up one (at least) of their current riders so will need someone and maybe they are looking afield of Jack/Petrucci as they may not want them or maybe they are getting a safety first. Basically, they may be hedging that both their current riders go so why not test the market
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As I said, possibilities I wonder about are their funding from VW being drastically cut or VW unloading Ducati entirely hence uncertainty about their financial status and consequent lowballing Dovi by their recent standards, and by current Jorge standards in particular.
Regarding VW I think the difficulties that you are referring to are over. I read a while ago that their shares had recovered in value (wish I'd bought some) so I cant see that withdrawing support from Ducati moto gp is a matter of urgency.
Also I really hope Dovi stays with them as he's the best Duke rider by a mile. There isn't really another to take his place at the moment.
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I hope Dovi does stay with Ducati. The contract talks might well be a bit touchy because of the existing salaries and returns on those salaries. I agree that there isn't another that can take Dovi's place at Duc at the moment.

I do wonder what JLo will do next year... Should Suzuki bin off Ianone when he's podiumed twice in the last 2 races? What if JLo goes to some other manufacturer (Suzuki or KTM or whatever) and the same thing happens as happened at Ducati?
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I'll take your word for it as you seem better informed than me,can't imagine why though,he's shown he can't ride it as did Rossi,Dovi has shown he can ride the Ducati and deserves a better deal especially in light of what Lorenzo's getting, so surely they will pay him his due and he will stay?

Well in total honesty the whole point of this thread from my side is: "I heard these things and I can't fucking believe them, but the sources I heard them from are quite reliable, so let's gather together and talk about how much we don't believe/understand the things I heard"
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